Front Lines Chat

[OG Maestro]

Bruh. Maybe teens now.
Community centers and youth programs were heavy when i grew up
Growing up Brown skinned in the80/90's had plenty of opportunities for awareness.
Remember the civil shit your implying was here if not worse.
Remember, ppl were NOT pc back then.
Mentality a teen in the 80/90's was already an adult in most cases.






But..about Pac..
Remember who was out musically in his prime..
36 mafia.
Uncle Luke
Naughty by Nature.
Plenty of acts that would be considered"garbage" by todays standards..


It would not have, and did not take much cognizance or adulthood to appreciate and comprehend 2Pacs messege thru music.

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@OG Maestro

Yooo yall looking way too deep.

You ever hear the saying, "you don't know what you got until it's gone"?

That's the point I was making.

You live, you live young. You get older, you appreciate more. period.

Obviously most people that weren't adults yet can't possibly understand the TRANSITION and the REVOLUTION that an artist like 2pac brought to the table.

all of us wasn't even 18 yet. ALL OF US. amen had to be like 12 or some shit in 1995. <--not even counting when 2pac was blowing up.

so I comparing that to @Tim... 's old school list of topical writers he regarded as dope. i was telling him, basically...no matter how much i read up on them I won't understand what they did for the culture IN THE BIGGER PICTURE

got damn.

[Greedy]

Master p n no limit.
Plenty of rreferences for a teen

[OG Maestro]

I'm not sleeping on my community or the activism that was going on back in the day, just stating simple facts

[Greedy]

How not? I dont agree.

[OG Maestro]

you can't appreciate eating them salty, non-digestable ass ramen noodle packs damn near every day until yo ass start slicing up the cliche proverbial steak

you might have been told to appreciate, but your consciousness really appreciates that shit on a deep level when you ascend your character. that's why Amen talking like he is now, same with you Joog. yall came a long way

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How not? I dont agree.

that's like a 14 year old trying to say michael jackson was a cultural milestone compared to james brown

how the fuck can a 14 year old speak with any realistic perspective on a time-era gap that's too big for him/her to cross? all that teen know is the atmosphere from within the movement AND NOT the context that surrounded it prior to its inception.

i'm tryna lay some light on you, god. listen, king. *loaded lux face*

[Greedy]

Its not like that at all.
Its a logical fallacy.

[Amen]

Yooo yall looking way too deep.

You ever hear the saying, "you don't know what you got until it's gone"?

That's the point I was making.

You live, you live young. You get older, you appreciate more. period.

Obviously most people that weren't adults yet can't possibly understand the TRANSITION and the REVOLUTION that an artist like 2pac brought to the table.

all of us wasn't even 18 yet. ALL OF US. amen had to be like 12 or some shit in 1995. <--not even counting when 2pac was blowing up.

so I comparing that to @Tim... 's old school list of topical writers he regarded as dope. i was telling him, basically...no matter how much i read up on them I won't understand what they did for the culture IN THE BIGGER PICTURE

got damn.

Bruh

[OG Maestro]

okay yo, have it your way at seeing it. how you deem something a fallacy but present nothing to directly refute it, it's your reality king. see it your way

[Greedy]

If ur implying 2Pac is the "proverbial steak"....No Limit Soldiers would be considered "proverbial ramen packs" correct?

Again, ur underestimating the cognizant social awareness of an inner city brown skinned teen in the 90s.

Music was ALWAYS meant to inspire.

[Amen]

you can't appreciate eating them salty, non-digestable ass ramen noodle packs damn near every day until yo ass start slicing up the cliche proverbial steak

you might have been told to appreciate, but your consciousness really appreciates that shit on a deep level when you ascend your character. that's why Amen talking like he is now, same with you Joog. yall came a long way

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that's like a 14 year old trying to say michael jackson was a cultural milestone compared to james brown

how the fuck can a 14 year old speak with any realistic perspective on a time-era gap that's too big for him/her to cross? all that teen know is the atmosphere from within the movement AND NOT the context that surrounded it prior to its inception.

i'm tryna lay some light on you, god. listen, king. *loaded lux face*

LMAO

niGGa

Just stop... cause you're wrong, bruh.

[Greedy]

Ur literally telling me i could not have done something that not only did i do. But so did, or at very least, could anyone my age.

[OG Maestro]

noooooooo lmao, not at all dawg.

that's not what i'm saying, i fucks with your knowledge God, but I'm not taking it there.

I'm saying the ramen noodles was no limits, 2pac, EVERYTHING, the culture in its every moment that we lived through as teens.

the proverbial steak is getting to look back at it, in hindsight, and really start appreciating it from an elevated view point(assuming you've gone through character growth and all that)

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it's all about time value, wine ages with time. and the depth of our comprehension of the times we experienced deepens as we age. that's it.

[Greedy]

Consider being in a situation where comprehension of the times was mandatory from an early age.

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Niggas was like Spartan children fighting wolves.
Ahead of the times if you consider a teen growing up today would only encounter a wolf in a video game.

[OG Maestro]

but does that really have anything to directly do with what I just said though?

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i mean it does, but it doesn't.


the logic is this.

unless you DIRECTLY experienced the time period before something happened....you can't actively appreciate it

example: not living beyond 2pac and the 90s-mid 80s era...and not being able to understand how revolutionary he was

vs.

me coming here in 2013 and reading up on bounce/chris black but not actually being here battling, and growing through the time period

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you can talk all day about "we had to learn early on" but you wasn't alive prior to the change in times, so you just lived through it oblivious to what it REALLY did from an experienced pair of lens.

[Greedy]

How old were you in the 90s?

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Btw i wasnt talking about ur topical battle history.
I said dead at amen not appreciating tupac.

Thats just a ba

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How would a 15 yr old w the mind of an adult not comprehend social changes thru time around him?