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    Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    These dudes are fucked up..


    SEATTLE — The first of 12 soldiers charged with crimes in Afghanistan that range from killing civilians to keeping body parts as war trophies appeared before a military tribunal on Monday that will decide whether his case proceeds to court-martial.

    The hearing began with 13 witnesses asserting their right to remain silent — including the lieutenant who headed their platoon. 1st Lt. Roman Ligsay was removed leadership of the platoon but isn't charged.

    ..Army Spc. Jeremy Morlock, 22, from Wasilla, Alaska, is charged with premeditated murder in the deaths of three Afghan civilians, assaulting a fellow soldier and "wrongfully photographing and possessing visual images of human casualties."

    The case of Morlock and his co-defendants could become the grimmest investigation of alleged atrocities by U.S. military personnel during almost nine years of war in Afghanistan.

    Reports of grisly photos of Afghan bodies being posed for photos by American troops could be among the more inflammatory revelations to emerge from the case, echoing worldwide outrage stirred by pictures of nude Iraqi prisoners of war taken by U.S. military personnel at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

    The photos referred to in the charging documents "have not been released ... as yet to the public," Army spokeswoman Maj. Kathleen Turner said Sunday.

    The troops, from the 5th Stryker Brigade based in Washington state, deployed to Kandahar province a year ago, and the murders occurred between January and March, according to charges by Army prosecutors made public this month.

    The highest-ranking man who faces charges is Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs. He, along with Morlock, is accused of taking part in all three killings.

    Gibbs collected fingers and other body parts from Afghan corpses, slaughtered animals indiscriminately and hoarded illicitly obtained weapons he could drop near civilian bodies to make them appear to be combatants, according to charges filed by Army prosecutors and statements soldiers in the platoon made to investigators.

    In two of the slayings, fragmentary grenades were thrown at the victims and they were shot, according to charging documents. The third victim also was shot.

    Morlock was the first of five soldiers initially charged in June with the murders. Seven others have been charged since then with various other crimes stemming from the investigation, including conspiracy to cover up the slayings.

    Four of the soldiers have been charged with keeping body parts, including finger bones, a skull, leg bones and a human tooth.

    Pentagon officials, while stressing that the charges have yet to be proven, acknowledged that the nature of the allegations were damaging to America's image abroad, and that of the U.S. military in particular.

    Morlock is the first to be brought before a military court for a so-called Article 32 hearing, in which prosecutors and defense lawyers present evidence to an investigating officer assigned to determine whether the defendant should be formally tried in a court-martial.


    The hearing at Joint Base Lewis-McChord near Tacoma, Wash., is expected to last a day, with the investigating officer taking up to several weeks to decide whether a court-martial is warranted, Turner said.

    Morlock has a history of criminal charges, the Tacoma News Tribune reported Monday: his wife sought a domestic-violence protective order against him two years ago; he was charged with assault and disorderly conduct against his wife and found guilty of the latter charge last year; when he was 15, he was charged with leaving an accident involving an injury or death and received a deferred prosecution.

    Dad says son tried to alert Army
    The father of one of the 12 facing charges said earlier this month that he tried several times to pass an urgent message from his son to the Army: Troops in his unit had murdered an Afghan civilian, planned more killings and threatened him to keep quiet about it.

    By the time officials arrested suspects months later, two more Afghans were dead.

    Christopher Winfield, who was shocked when his son Adam was among those charged, said his son did not kill the unarmed man and would never have been in the situation if the Army had investigated the warnings he says he passed along to Fort Lewis.


    An Army spokeswoman at the base said she could not comment on whether they received such a tip or if so, whether it was acted on.


    Emma and Christopher Winfield hold a photograph of their son, 22-year-old Army Spc. Adam Winfield, at their home in Cape Coral, Fla. Adam is accused of murdering civilians during his deployment to Afghanistan, a charge he and his family firmly refute. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said he had no information about the man's claim. "That's disheartening to hear if that is indeed the case," he said. "If someone is trying to reach out, trying to notify us, trying to head off a potential problem, that's something we need to pay attention to and heed that warning."

    The new details about Winfield's efforts to alert the Army and his son's pleas raised questions about the Army's handling of the case and its system for allowing soldiers to report misconduct by their colleagues.

    Winfield is charged with murder in the final killing, and his attorney, Eric Montalvo, insists he was ordered to shoot after Gibbs hit the civilian with a grenade. Winfield deliberately shot high and missed, he said.

    Gibbs has denied the charges. His attorney, Phillip Stackhouse, said his client maintains that the shootings were "appropriate engagements" and denies involvement in any conspiracy to kill civilians.

    The AP reviewed witness and defendant statements as well as documents filed with an Army magistrate for this report.

    Gibbs, 25, of Billings, Mont., arrived in the unit late last year and soon began discussing how easy it would be to kill civilians, some in the platoon told Army investigators. He and Morlock, 22, planned "scenarios" in which they could carry out such killings, they said.

    Morlock gave investigators extensive statements describing the plot.

    Morlock's lawyer told The Seattle Times that the statements were made under the influence of prescription drugs to treat traumatic brain injuries from explosions and should be suppressed as evidence.

    In each of the killings, Morlock said, he and Gibbs planned and initiated the attack and enlisted one other soldier to participate.

    A father looks back
    The first indication for Christopher Winfield and his wife, Emma, that something was amiss came Jan. 15, the day of the first killing.

    "I'm not sure what to do about something that happened out here but I need to be secretive about this," their son wrote them in a Facebook message. The couple gave the AP copies of the Facebook messages, Internet chats and their phone records.

    Winfield, 22, of Cape Coral, Fla., didn't immediately provide more details, and over the next month he had little contact with his parents. They said they checked constantly to see if he was online.

    On Feb. 14, he told his parents what happened in a lengthy Internet chat: Members of his unit on patrol had killed "some innocent guy about my age just farming." He said he did not witness the killing.

    But, he wrote, those involved told him about it and urged him to "get one of my own."

    He said that virtually everyone in the platoon was aware of what was going on, but no one seemed to object.

    "If you talk to anyone on my behalf, I have proof that they are planning another one in the form of an AK-47 they want to drop on a guy."

    He added that he didn't know whom to trust and feared for his safety if his comrades learned he was talking to authorities.

    'No more good men left here'
    "Should I do the right thing and put myself in danger for it. Or just shut up and deal with it," he wrote his parents. "There are no more good men left here. It eats away at my conscience everyday."


    Army Spc. Adam Winfield while on duty in Afghanistan. In statements to investigators, at least three platoon members said Gibbs directly threatened Winfield. Morlock added that Gibbs devised "scenarios" for Winfield's death, one of which involved Gibbs dropping heavy weights on him as he was working out.

    Gibbs accosted Winfield as he was on his way to speak with a chaplain and warned him to keep quiet, Montalvo said.

    Soldiers serving in a combat theater typically would report crimes up the chain of command, to military investigators or chaplains, to members of the Defense Department inspector general's office, or even to another unit if their own commanders are involved.

    One soldier, Pfc. Justin A. Stoner, who reported hashish smoking in the unit, said he was beaten by several platoon members. Gibbs and Morlock then paid him a visit, with Gibbs rolling out on the floor a set of severed fingers, he told investigators.

    Morlock told him that "if I don't want to end up like that guy ... shut the hell up."


    Winfield asked his parents to call an Army hot line because he didn't want anyone to overhear him using the phone.

    Dad: I called Pentagon hot line
    His father, a Marine veteran, was shocked, and made five calls to military officials that day, his phone records show.

    He said he left a message on a Defense Department hot line and called four numbers at Fort Lewis. He said he spoke with an on-duty sergeant and left a message at an Army Criminal Investigations Division office before reaching the base's command center.

    In that call, an official told him that if his son wasn't willing to come forward while deployed, there was nothing the base could do, Winfield recalled in interviews with the AP and in a sworn statement to Army investigators.

    The official suggested the soldier keep his head down until his deployment ended and investigators could look into his claims, he said.

    The elder Winfield told AP he regrets not writing down the identities of those he spoke with. He said he did not give any of them Gibbs' name, but did identify his son. He said one of his son's sergeants had been involved in a civilian's murder and was planning more.

    His son soon expressed concern about what would happen if Army officials stateside began making inquiries and asked his dad to back off. The elder Winfield said he complied.

    A week later, the second killing occurred. On May 2, the third killing took place.

    The killings eventually came to light when the soldier who had reported the drug use told investigators that Morlock "had three prior kills that none of which I believe were actually justified."
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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    too much to read get to the point
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    Quit being lazy and learn some'fin, nigga! :vanja:

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    those men should be shot on the spot. kudos to Winfield for at least trying to do something about it.

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Quote Originally Posted by Rishi P View Post
    too much to read get to the point
    learn how to type and maybe i'll consider it
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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    psshhttt.....fingers??? i wear heads as hats....

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    This is disgusting, but something that unfortunately increases as wars stretch on with no foreseeable end in sight, and enormous pressure placed on those who serve our country. Unacceptable, but at the same time, very sad


    and LOL @ Rishi

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Quote Originally Posted by Rishi P View Post
    learn how to type and maybe i'll consider it
    You do realize you quoted yourself, right?

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanH View Post
    You do realize you quoted yourself, right?
    LOL, I thought the same thing

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    blame the illuminati

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Fuck the Illuminati..and Tupac. :vanja:

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanH View Post
    Fuck the Illuminati..and Tupac. :vanja:

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    I could truly fucking care less. Fuck afghan..

    Keep the fucking scalps

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    Quote Originally Posted by Rishi P View Post
    learn how to type and maybe i'll consider it
    Lmfao @ you quoting yourself. Good job.

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    Re: Body Parts: The Best Kind of Trophy

    It's kind of retarded how other soldiers were urging him to do it as well. I'm assuming these body parts were bloody and reaked up a storm while they were decomposing, why the hell would you want to keep them??

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