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    Not quite good Enough.

    Not quite good Enough.





    "It's a clash of opinions that makes you ask what a win is -
    Clouded with ranks taught how to say thanks for the pittance..."


    They judge me, begrudge me and say it's A minus,
    Not quite what they're willing to put in, in spite of what mine is...
    It's lines fit, but rhymes sit without attention,
    Minor mention to those who think my rhyme design's not invention...

    I'm flattered the egos flare when people declare what I write
    As something to like when the club is closed
    Like sun is rose to the night...
    I'm smiling in moments though I'm still trying to show this,
    Flow that's going word to word from high to lowest...


    Tell me I'm second-rate,
    ...I'm not up to par...
    You're more for the less you hate
    ...But that's what you are...



    Eighteen and Nineteen just spent your first time being alone...
    Now you know it all so you'll show me which dormitory hall's your home
    I'm callin' your bullshit, it's fall and you're full of it,
    School just started and you're fucking retarded if you're cool with it...
    The rule is wit, it's not how smart you seem ---
    When you write preconceived thoughts and take shots cuz you're a teen...
    The world is your oyster, And you've got a girl that you love, right?
    So what's light when dark keeps you parallel parked in lust's sight...
    Getting fucked 's like being a slut's life -
    Soon you'll realize that nobody's sealed eyes sees what's right...


    Tell me I'm second-rate,
    ...I'm not up to par...
    You're more for the less you hate
    ...But that's what you are...



    It's a club that refuses other's work that confuses
    Their sense of being "Vets" and votes against upsets
    So they don't lose this...
    Sense of security they're bent on assurin' me,
    My pieces are Hall of Fame but I should crawl in shame
    To Legends' currency..

    I feel like it matters, but I rap for the feeling...
    I do this to prove this is actually the real thing...
    But I'm told it's flawed,
    So I reroll this odd numbered dice and
    Wonder twice if I'm even owed the awe...


    Tell me I'm second-rate,
    ...I'm not up to par...
    You're more for the less you hate
    ...But that's what you are...


    (break, music stops)
    The power of words isn't written, it's read...
    The power of verses isn't spitten, or said,
    It's heard it's absurd to think that we talk,
    We draw from unconscious long lists that we've sought...
    We're bought, we're sold, we're taught, we're told
    We think we're original but that's the subliminal mold...
    Last edited by Engivale; August 27th, 2007 at 04:38 AM

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    "She managed to extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought, like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines."


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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    will edit with links in morning i felt like writing an om tonight.

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    "She managed to extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought, like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines."


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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    Love it...

    this piece here was sort of a self cretique...you went in depth about the character's writing ability and exposed reasons for the one's who like it and don't like it only to state in the end that..
    The power of words isn't written, it's read...
    The power of verses isn't spitten, or said,
    It's heard it's absurd to think that we talk,
    We draw from unconscious long lists that we've sought...
    We're bought, we're sold, we're taught, we're told
    We think we're original but that's the subliminal mold...
    all the mechanics were covered to the T. in this one..and one thing you Pwn is flow...you have excellent wording...and a unique sense of flow. to your drops...and the repetative stanza's only proved to be right once the ending is read...You had a lot of witty lines...filled with emotion and good imagery...

    The world is your oyster, And you've got a girl that you love, right?
    So what's light when dark keeps you parallel parked in lust's sight...
    Getting fucked 's like being a slut's life -
    Soon you'll realize that nobody's sealed eyes sees what's right...
    I really found these lines to my liking...it's so much emotion and imagery...here..shww..nice drop..

    Overall i think this is one of the better OM's I've read in a while and it should be coming from a writer of you caliber...nice drop..man..and keep the pen moving...

    RTF..ENG..

    http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...al-346983.html

    Last edited by Nsight; August 30th, 2007 at 04:49 PM

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...html?p=5916393
    http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...er-345913.html

    links and up, thx for feed ntlakek i'm gonna go hit some other OM shit up while i feel like reading.

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    At first I was literally laugh my motherfucking ass off at the thought of where all this is coming from. But when I really sat back and thought about it a minute I had to concur with a lot of your thoughts and believes. Not that I'm "overly" bitter with any Legendary decisions pending against me, but I'd be a fool to believe that no politics or unbiased opinions exist within the legendary forum, especially in regards to induction. However, even what I stated above is just an opinion based on an opinion that was based on another opinion, so at the end of the day it's all just "hear- say", with no concert evidence like UFO sightings. Anyway, as for this piece in particular, I thought it was dope as fuck! You had a shitload of passion surging through you text and an even greater amount of frustration and or aggression being released. From a mechanical standpoint your wording, placement and rhyme scheme were spot on, and your flow produced electricity like keys and kites - in other words, you Ben Franked the English Language. What I always enjoy most about your writing Eng (this piece in particular) is your ability to produce a mass amount of lyrical devices without falling off or drifting from you original topic - your messages are always present and intact. All in all man...this was not only dope, but it was also very relevant and specific to RB as a whole.





    Favorite Lines:

    They judge me, begrudge me and say it's A minus,
    Not quite what they're willing to put in, in spite of what mine is...
    It's lines fit, but rhymes sit without attention,
    Minor mention to those who think my rhyme design's not invention...
    ^Yeah, it's a shame how a name or lack there of can limit the amount of admiration, recognition and justifiable dues a piece is given or in some cases not given. Me personally, I try to look at everything with an objective eye regardless of the writer's status. Being honest and unbiased is the only logical way to evaluate true skill in my opinion. I think what is quoted above is trying to say that in so many words or less. In any event, it was still a very well written sequence of lines, complete with personal insight, frustration, and outspoken view points, so I can dig it!





    Also:

    Tell me I'm second-rate,
    ...I'm not up to par...
    You're more for the less you hate
    ...But that's what you are...
    ^Creating a fake status quo to maintain their superior stature and or relevant position among the site's echelons, as a result anything that rocks the thrown and or challenges or equals the ability of the preferred name(s) is automatically rejected, downgraded, and or discredited. LOL....Dope hook!





    Again:

    I'm callin' your bullshit, it's fall and you're full of it,
    School just started and you're fucking retarded if you're cool with it...
    The rule is wit, it's not how smart you seem ---
    When you write preconceived thoughts and take shots cuz you're a teen...
    The world is your oyster, And you've got a girl that you love, right?
    So what's light when dark keeps you parallel parked in lust's sight...
    LMFAO@the subliminal nature of all of this. However, I can understand where your coming from and am not completely opposed to your reaction. From a nuteral and or general standpoint some of what you say holds merit. Not to mention the lyrical attributes that pertains to metaphorical language and wordplay are top notch. As to was the flow and complex scheme. Just sick some shit through and through!




    Hmmmmm:

    It's a club that refuses other's work that confuses
    Their sense of being "Vets" and votes against upsets
    So they don't lose this...
    Sense of security they're bent on assurin' me,
    My pieces are Hall of Fame but I should crawl in shame
    To Legends' currency..
    ^That was probably the most direct, best worded, and well expressed portion in the entire drop. It really summarized what the entire concept was. And I also think that a lot of writers can relate to what your saying or at least empathize with your content.





    Finally:

    The power of words isn't written, it's read...
    The power of verses isn't spitten, or said,
    It's heard it's absurd to think that we talk,
    We draw from unconscious long lists that we've sought...
    We're bought, we're sold, we're taught, we're told
    We think we're original but that's the subliminal mold...
    ^That was a dope closer that laid it all out of the kitchen table then proceeded to feast on the ideas at hand. Once again I thought a lot of truth was exhibited and........


    Well, one thing is for certain Eng, you definitely have balls. You don't mind speaking your mind and holding your tongue is as foreign to you has Chinese News. All in all, this is what you call a dope expression of realism - (((lol))) - whatever the fuck that means.





    pZ
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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    Mechanics, Rhymes, word placement, flow were all good and on point...but i Doubt i should harp on the issues which weren't the main focus here. It's pretty obvious why this was written and I agree with it...the whole voting thing in general needs a rehaul or some type of unbiased Legends committe os something....I say this because when a known head like Atticus shouts out his opinion then many new heads who only know that Atticus is meant to be dope blindly follow his opinion...Though in all honesty I have to disagree with him as I beleie i did vote you in or something...but yeah each to his own. It's always good to vent out feelings and practically everything you said is relatable not only to the way RB works but to the way Society works in general. It's a dark and twisted place....Society is a a narrow road with both sides of the walls being slowly closed towards imminent death and the ones in authority who can save you are the same ones pulling the levers of the closing walls <--2nd random rambling of the day.
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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    Man, I felt you were insulting me specifically with this piece as I read it. Maybe because I'm more fucked up in the head I felt so violated and hurt that this entire thing was nearly an insult against me. So I carefully read it twice a second time it's more the upper half of it I felt you were insulting me. I think It's because I can relate to what you're saying so strongly or maybe it was directed to me I don't know man I'm a little schizo so I'm probably just being delusional. I thought this was awesome I loved it and hold up
    Quote Originally Posted by Engivale View Post
    Eighteen and Nineteen just spent your first time being alone...
    Now you know it all so you'll show me which dormitory hall's your home
    I'm callin' your bullshit, it's fall and you're full of it,
    School just started and you're fucking retarded if you're cool with it...
    The rule is wit, it's not how smart you seem ---
    When you write preconceived thoughts and take shots cuz you're a teen...
    The world is your oyster, And you've got a girl that you love, right?
    So what's light when dark keeps you parallel parked in lust's sight...
    Getting fucked 's like being a slut's life -
    Soon you'll realize that nobody's sealed eyes sees what's right...
    I thought this was all directed to me, sorry I have to get it off my fuckin chest. Anyways man in some parts I was thinking wow, I can't believe he said that. But sorry I know I might sound stupid but I have a meaning in mind to what this whole open mic drop meant but I'm not entirely sure as to what you really meant so I'm a little confused I just really enjoyed reading this. I also agree with Ledgenz those favorite lines were mine too. I sat reading that like wow that was cool lol thanks for the read good drop GOOOOD sorry for all the errors in this if there is any. pce
    Feedback On mine would be nice, you don't have to drop feed on it if you don't want to (obviously). It's not as good as yours I'm trying to fix my style to your types and aces of aces but if you could leave some feed on mine it would be nice man http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...on-347072.html I know it's not great but I have to elevate some how
    Last edited by Dreamer22; August 28th, 2007 at 08:04 PM

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    it wasn't directed at you particularly, lol, but if you feel that you're kind of a stupid know-it-all kid who has a tough time giving others their due because of your own ego, then, yea, i'm talking 2 you.

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    get a life.
    po'ethics /
    abstanticollective.

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    AHAHAHAHAHHA

    you crack me up, dude.

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    Re: Not quite good Enough.

    Very sick piece.

    flow was like a running water faucet right here. just kept going, smooth as hell. Taken into the account the fact that I've seen this concept dropped like a million times, yours just took the cake. said EVERYTHING that was needed to say with some insane diction and even some of your own opinions. How long did this take to write because the amount of thought put into this seems great. dope closer here:

    The power of words isn't written, it's read...
    The power of verses isn't spitten, or said,
    It's heard it's absurd to think that we talk,
    We draw from unconscious long lists that we've sought...
    We're bought, we're sold, we're taught, we're told
    We think we're original but that's the subliminal mold...

    ^you really could turn this whole piece to audio, it'd be coo.

    keep it up homie.

    in return could you please go vote on this battle, it has two stupid votes so far, one guy broke it down like it was a text battle...

    http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...html?p=5923411

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