lol not if you think about it logically.Originally Posted by Enoch Light
You can tear anthing to shreds if you twist enough words properly. It doesn't change what's right from wrong.
lol not if you think about it logically.
You can tear anthing to shreds if you twist enough words properly. It doesn't change what's right from wrong.
a majority of germans thought hitler was a good leader, they were wrong.
Shit, at one time every single person on this planet thought the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. GUESS WHAT? They were fucking wrong. What I'm getting at is, it doesn't matter how many people are for something or believe something it doesn't change what's right or wrong or what's false or fact.
Idk if gun laws would affect @Enoch Light in the least bit.
If they do, that's kind of the point.
Upstanding citizens shouldn't be concerned.
Kill a bitch and kill her kid
all depends what her nigga did
-herbo
That's what I'm trying to say
o.k. well, this is just going to go in circles then i guess
my final word is this
lets say today i give up my AR-15.
then after all those evil Assault weapons are off the street . . . people will be using hand guns and shotguns to kill
well, since we opened that door already, may as well just do like every other pussy socialist society and grab them all up, because at that point its definitely the guns faults that people are getting killed.
i mean, rape burglaries, and assaults will go up 50% but hey, the woman who got gang banged in the alley by 3 men will get over it one day. at least the gun ban stopped her from taking the lives of her attackers who just happened to make a bad life choice that day
and as far as the law abiding people who buy and collect guns for nothing other then recreational use they are shit out of luck
and for the thousands of factories that will close and the thousands of people who will lose their jobs. . . sorry about your luck eh?
no thanks
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An armed man is a citizen,
An unarmed man is a victim.
You were on to something earlier when you were talking about treating mental health and education and such.
When you declared you would go to war if the law evre changed regarding guns that's when our stances became adjacent instead of semi parallel
actually. . nm
not that important
most people on forums like these are socialist or extreme leftists anyway . . you will just go that way on these issues because thats where the rest of the flock is
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An armed man is a citizen,
An unarmed man is a victim.
I can assure you in not extreme left. If you remember the conversation before you talked about kill or be killed we were agreeing on aspects of gun control or whatever. I don't follow the flock, I base my stance off of logic and evidence. Any country with good gun laws is a safer happier place. Also, what do you think is wrong with socialism?
lol
at the risk of subjecting anyones pro-socialist views on this website, id rather not even have that conversation. were good man
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Fresh, you have proven several times now you have no understanding of the gun control situation. Especially the fact that you have to resort to insulting - that's a clear indication of your ignorance on the subject. Let me reiterate Enoch's quote for you.
This. If you are going to deny historical record, then you really need not to enter this debate. Basing your false beliefs on some fantastical naive belief that resides only in your head is not demonstrable of someone who has a clear grasp of the workings of the real world.
Also, the only gun control anyone needs is their index finger.
Not to mention you act like murders or violent crimes are only committed with guns. Yet another attribution of your mythological belief system. If guns ceased to exist on this planet (as they once did), how can you prove that violent crimes would decrease? Are you also forgetting that a KNIFE is a very common weapon nowadays, MUCH MORE COMMON than a gun? lol, you have to get real for a second. Take away a murderer's gun and he will find a knife. Take away his knife and he will find a brick or a rock. Stop living in fantasy land and accept the fact that the only legitimate method of ceasing violence is through education (not government indoctrinated education, I mean legitimate education). We have to be more caring and empathetic as a people, willing to help others instead of harm, willing to understand others instead of dismiss. Only until we live in an idealistic altruistic world will violence end. Taking away guns solves nothing and is a complete indication of a person who cannot think past today.
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As for socialism - we've had this debate before, Fresh - it breeds mediocrity. I was a member of the biggest socialist organization in the United States - the federal government, specifically the USAF. I not only witnessed firsthand but experienced socialism - and it is thoroughly bad. It promotes mediocrity and stifles excellence to keep it simple. Any system that produces such results is an inferior system. Have you ever lived in a socialist system? If the answer is no, then stop arguing for something you have no clue about.
Lol insults you compared me to hitler supporters retard. I understand more about gun control than you do that's 100% fact
Now kindly go kill yourself you worthless fuck. Not wasting my time on you
If you feel insulted by a factual comparison, you have some changes to make. That's not on me, that's on you.
You have been proven to not understand anything about gun control by multiple people now. Stating otherwise does not change this fact. You are completely clueless and belligerently ignorant. This is why those of us who actually understand what is truly going on refer to your kind as "sheeple." Keep following the herd. Hopefully they lead you off of a cliff tbh.
Not to mention your incessant need to impose your narrow-minded worldview on others also makes you similar to Hitler. You are apparently not content with letting others live as they do; you feel the psychopathic need to impose your fantastical belief system on everyone. You live in a completely different country. Stop worrying about another country until you have actually done something to improve your own. You want to comment on the politics in the United States when you do absolutely nothing to effect the political state in your own country. Hypocrite much?
Let me ask you something. Do you own a gun? Or have you ever owned a gun?
Your concept of "gun control" is to redistribute guns from all people to one specific group of people. Why do you think it is okay for one group of people to have guns but not the others? Why do you also trust the one group of people with guns that commit the most murders with them worldwide? Are you seriously so blind to reality that you think civilians are killing more people with guns than any governments are? Police are killing more people with guns than citizens. The US military is killing more people with guns than civilians. Explain to me how ensuring the group responsible for the most gun violence is the only one to have access to guns is going to deter gun violence. That is a complete logical fallacy. South America is a great region to understand - look at the oppression that is rampant there where only governments and criminals have guns (and where the government technically is criminal, much like the US Government). "Oh, let's take away guns from the public and hand them to those who commit murders with guns the most!!" Dafuq?
If you truly understood gun control as you claim, you would already know all of this and you wouldn't be regurgitating nonsense espoused from whatever neoliberal mainstream media outlet you get all of your "news" from.
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WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TAKING "YOUR" GUNS?
they aren't. They want it more difficult for people who shouldn't have them, to have them.
Like violent criminals and ppl with mental illness. Not law abiding citizens.
You don't have anything to worry about.
If you do...u shouldn't have a gun anyway. Because, ur either:
A- a violent criminal
Or
B- a person with mental illness.
I still haven't seen or heard ANYONE, EVER say they want to ban guns outright. Besides of course, pro gun activist guys.
Kill a bitch and kill her kid
all depends what her nigga did
-herbo
I'm totally down to let others live as they do, unless that includes harming other people. Gun control does not mean taking away everyone's guns, it means better screening processes, harder to get your hands on guns.
Your going against facts, and twisting words to fit your extreme right agenda. The fact is, statistics show countries with stricter gun laws have a lower murder rate.
Anyway, you comparing me to hitler supporters is so far out there that you've lost any chance to have a civilized debate with me. Enoch and myself have been debating somewhat civilized and I have respect for the guy even though he is an extremist in his views, at least he has cohesive and logical points in many of his arguments. You on the other hand try to take extreme facts from one side because it fits your agenda but deny facts from the other side because it goes against your agenda.
If anything, I should be the one worried about gun grabbing. Not law abiding White guys. Smh.
Kill a bitch and kill her kid
all depends what her nigga did
-herbo
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