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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by Toobs View Post
    its bigger than that man... i know how you feel about law enforcement, but you reallyt cant speak on it man, no offense... not being where youre from... you have to live around it to see it for what it truly is...

    police overstepping their boundaries is a TRUE problem.... but so is retards acting ridiculous.... as i said... theres huge issues on both sides... i see no solution...
    I can agree with that.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Boobs and Ryan have valid points.

    It is mostly criminals faults. Michael Brown was a complete degenerate yet he is practically being worshipped solely because he has been nothing but a vehicle to the big bucks for domestic terrorists such as Bill DeBlasio, Eric Holder and Al Sharpton (who I truly believe has many parallels to Adolf Hitler).

    The racial tension is higher than it's been in decades, and it's bringing out the worst in people. And the protesters are morons and complete hypocrites: they're protesting that they don't want a few criminals and derelicts to be the measuring stick for a whole group of people, but are doing that very same thing to police.

    I loathe the idiocy of mass hysteria greatly. And the animals that are it's momentum. One such example was the bitch that lost an eye. For those who don't know, she was riding in a car with a scumbag that tried to run over a cop. When the liberal cum-rag Daily News spoke to her, she claimed her and the driver were "respecting Mike Brown". Not only is that an incredibly stupid-sounding answer, but the truth of the matter is that most of these derelicts are acting in parallels to Muslim extremist groups. We have domestic terrorists who are too stupid to to understand this. They're so blinded by a perceived notion fed by manipulators that they think that acts of terror are the answer.

    The European notion of "stoopid 'muricans" is becoming true. And all because of the pussification of the politically-correct leftist liberals.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by Moniker View Post
    social justice? I know you nerf herders have some weird ass takes on things sometimes so what has the reaction to current police violence and non-indictments looked like in your community? Who's on board with all the hashtags flying around for #nojusticenopeace and #blacklives matter and who's been trying to defend the police because the 'system' works for them in their full-fledged white privileged existence.

    or we can collectively suppress our thoughts and feelings and not process them by discussing this type of shit in public forums because that always works best...
    First, and foremost; dig your vocab.

    But, number B, were not talking about it cuz its lame.

    And more over easy, makes sense you want to, now that the former things are outlined.

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    Kind of surprised theres so many viewpoints on this that don't target the main issues. Cops are revenue collectors for the gov. The ones who are truly in it to "serve and protect" would lay down their life before they ever shot an unarmed person. That's true public service to put yourself in harms way on a daily basis. Scared of dying or losing your life trying to protect someone from a robber, drug dealer, etc? Then don't be a fucking cop. Be a social worker or some shit. All the badge is right now is a get out of jail free card and a beacon to anyone with an over-inflated ego who likes to feel dominate over other people. Power is a hell of a drug.

    I think changing gun laws is a step in the right direction but if we can't even get politicians to change the system after someone opens fire on elementary schools in Conn., Florida State's Library, etc. Then how is it ever going to change? In ALL of the current situations being discussed nationally the cops did not follow protocol. There's a 5 step progression before ever considering your gun. Talk, Talk, Baton, Taser, Gun. And even then waiting for backup should be step 4 1/2. I don't agree with the hunter either which may be A.T's angle, who wants an arsenal of guns just to kill a deer, boar, or a bear. Be a man and hunt with a bow (and probably don't kill bears because there is no way they taste good?). @Toobs cops do carry guns in the UK. Their evaluations are way more strick then ours.

    Ryan, stealing some cigarillos or standing on a street corner asking for the cops to leave you alone, or walking in a stairwell in a project building should not be a death sentence. Have you listened to the cop who shot Mike Brown's statements? He's likening him to Hulk Hogan, which is an outdated reference first of all, and second is a PRIME example of racism. Acting like black men were somehow of 'superhuman strength' and therefore should be feared is a very subversive but real racist viewpoint.

    How do you explain the skewed number of black people in prison and black people who've died at the hands of police if there is not an underlying theme of racism? It's coincidence? White people do equally dumb shit everyday that they could be harassed and arrested for too. check out the hashtags #crimingwhilewhite and #alivewhileblack and see the split of how people are treated differently for the same situations based on their skin color. The news media always will stereotype any black criminal while the white kid who shoots innocent people for no fucking reason always gets the "I have no idea how he would do this, he was such a nice kid" or he "just needed help" like he was some type of angel instead of an evil psychopath.

    I guess what I'm saying is, if you are defending the system, that means the system works for YOU. Congratulations on being born white.

    What I'm not saying is that each cop who kills a civilian should get the death penalty. That's an eye for an eye mentality that I'm not about. Something has to change when a 12 year old kid can be shot down for having a toy gun. I don't really have answers to any of these things. Cameras on cops should be standard. Less cops carrying guns should be standard. People policing themselves is where we need to get to. Accountability and neighborhood involvement is a thing of the past unfortunately.
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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Social justice won't come until economic inequality is addressed.
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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by God of War View Post
    Also in england they don't have groups of people white,black, any color thinking there fucking al capone or scarface.
    Technically that isn't true man BUT it's not to the extent America have it.

    Like 2 days ago we had a huge cannabis factory seized where cops found Aks and shit.. mad crazy but like I said that's surprising to us becausse we rarely see shit like that round here
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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDoWLesS View Post
    Social justice won't come until economic inequality is addressed.
    Solid take. I'll cosign that. Finally someone who can see beyond the current issues and at the root of what causes them. Well done. All those bankers who fucked the economy up for going on 4 years now? Never saw jail time. But steal some cigarettes unarmed in the hood? Dead. Makes perfect sense.
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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by Toobs View Post
    yes they do.... theyre even more ridiculous on the try to be G shit over there than we are..


    you ever watched Ali G?? he created that character for a reason...

    no way man, maybe to the whigger extent. thats what ali g is.

    but its a big difference tween ehre and there


    the people playing gangster here go to the extent of killing, robbing, etc etc a lot more then they do over there. rap music/tv/movies has much more of an impact on the youth here then over there for some reason.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Blame the cops. Blame the white man. Blame everyone except for the criminals who put themselves in a position to be shot by police in the first place.

    Obviously there's a few exceptions and there are just some straight shit head cops out there.

    But nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. It's easier to blame the cops for being corrupt than it is to admit your son is just another stereotypical black man.

    And I only reference black men because let's be honest, that's what this is about. White cops who just so happen to be unfortunate enough to shoot a black man, and ultimately wind up being labeled as a racist.
    I completely agree with you and ive seen plenty of cops over step there bounderies and i still agree with you. why? because ive seen citizens over step there bounderies 100 x to each 1 time I see a cop do it

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    after reading all of this I have come to the conclusion that my privileged white life is awesome

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDoWLesS View Post
    Social justice won't come until economic inequality is addressed.
    Economic equality is a dangerous thing. But opportunities to bridge the gap should be earned, not granted. Work programs, not this bullshit that promotes poor people to overbreed. That is, as you and I have seen, a downward spiral that is self-propelling.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Father View Post
    Economic equality is a dangerous thing. But opportunities to bridge the gap should be earned, not granted. Work programs, not this bullshit that promotes poor people to overbreed. That is, as you and I have seen, a downward spiral that is self-propelling.
    I think in order to combat inequality, we need to look at the most successful economic models, mainly those in the nordic countries. Sweden is only second to the USA in GDP growth, but massively spends on the social welfare of their citizens. The two are not mutually exclusive, so research is required.
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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDoWLesS View Post
    I think in order to combat inequality, we need to look at the most successful economic models, mainly those in the nordic countries. Sweden is only second to the USA in GDP growth, but massively spends on the social welfare of their citizens. The two are not mutually exclusive, so research is required.
    However, the US has been dealt a mortal wound from within by the socialist leftists. The people are too stupid to understand and are imploding.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Father View Post
    However, the US has been dealt a mortal wound from within by the socialist leftists.
    the guy you quoted, and had this response for is one.

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    Re: Why are we not talking about

    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Father View Post
    However, the US has been dealt a mortal wound from within by the socialist leftists. The people are too stupid to understand and are imploding.
    The USA does not have any socialists or real leftists in power, so I don't know what you're referring to there. I do agree the general public knows nothing about policy, but that's OK. It's the job of people who pay attention to spread knowledge through every day conversations and share life experiences, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toobs View Post
    the guy you quoted, and had this response for is one.
    Haha, I am a democratic socialist, but people don't understand what that means and think I'm a communist. I like explaining myself though.
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