so hypothetically, if we could take the baby out of the mother and let it grow (which we can already do at like 5 months), the baby is still the woman's body?
Sorry, but a baby is not a woman's body. It's a person living off of the mother. They're connected by an organ that only serves to give the baby nutrition in order to grow.
WTF @ attacking me because I don't want my unborn child to die. My opinion is valid. It's 100% bullshit that fathers have no rights yet they carry the MOST (yes that's right) responsibility for their child under the law. All a mother has to do if she doesn't want a child is mistreat it. The kid will be taken in a heartbeat. But guess who still has to shell out tons of money every month to support it... yea.
"It's my body" = bullshit
"It's my freedom to choose" = bullshit
If abortion is so morally right then why can't people be honest about what they're actually doing? It's a cop out. We are conditioned to want the easy way out of everything no matter what the cost. This is the same reason that our economy is fucked up.
make the list then.
I'll spot you imminent danger/death and rape victims. You come up with the other LEGITIMATE reasons why you should kill a baby instead of giving it up for adoption... or god forbid actually taking responsibility for your CHOICES and raising your kid like a damn adult.
Oh, great, you've got Opey mad.
/leaves thread
A.I.
"She managed to extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought, like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines."
He seriously did. All I did was give my opinion. I didn't even say it should be illegal, but he had to be a faggot and attack me for actually having moral standards. Sorry, we can't all be peices of shit with no care for the world...
... and no legs.
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Lmao. I love the cheap shot.
Opey, at the end of the day, we all know the excuses people use are bullshit. People merk babies because they're inconvenienced. No one has it in them just to say that.
It breaks down to weather you think merking the baby is right or wrong. Pro-choicer's can't be honest about their stance, for the most part, so a debate arises which is all bullshit. There is no debate. Some people believe killing a child is fin if it's not born yet, and some people don't. There really is no debate. It breaks down to ethics, and everyone's ethics are different. It's not a real debate.
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Lol@me repeating myself several times there.
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This is truth. I think legally it comes down to when a baby is considered a human being. But I've gotten away from legal arguments about it. There's plenty of things that are legal that people shouldn't do, and their are plenty of things that are illegal that shouldn't be. Just because there's no legal penalty for something doesn't mean people should do it.
I hate the hypocritical arguments tho just because people don't have theballs to say that they'd rather kill a person than be inconvenienced.
PS: I'd never miss a cheap shot. Vanja shouldn't even be out of Kris' basement anyway. I'm gonna tell him Vanja was on his computer again when I see him later tonight at the... uh... studio. yea.
Well, I believe in the legality of abortion for said reasons... just so it gets done right... because like it or not, other people will do stupid shit. That's something I've learned to live with, there are people out there that would say, "I'm pregnant. Fuck, I'll just dodge this bullet on some matrix shit and get an abortion."
It's morally incompetent and selfish, sure. But so are tons of other things. At least have something set up to help it get done right, because if someone doesn't want a baby, they will probably do some other fucked up shit if an abortion is unavailable to them.
To me, that's the argument for the legality.
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"She managed to extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought, like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines."
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Well, in the eyes of the law, taking life is a serious crime. Law makers would be irresponsible to legalize a crime just so the crime is committed correctly. The U.S. Government definitely takes a moral stance against taking [American] human life. Roe vs. Wade was overturned on the basis that an unborn child isn't a human being. And IMO that's a huge hypocritical cop out.
Well, then, you would condemn the life of the woman who, were abortion illegal, would still try to abort the fetus herself or with amateur help and then kill herself doing so?
That's not very pro-life.
A.I.
"She managed to extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought, like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines."
Lmao I didn't attack you, you're just sensetive as hell to this topic. I only said your name cuz you were most outspoken. Oh the morals shit. Give me a fuckin' break you hypocrite ass. Just a while ago you were all "Let those two nations whipe eachother out whoever is strongest! Fuck them!". So you're all for millions of men women and children with actual lives dying brutaly, but you're oh so hurt when someone tells you it's none of your fuckin' business if some woman you never met wants to abort the fetus in her. If you're scared of YOUR woman doing that, that's YOUR prolblem between the two of you. I don't want your personal belifs and feelings to be laws for the rest of us. I don't give a shit about any fetus anywhere, so the fuck what. I care more about actual people with lives. I have no morals! Maybe I should convert to catholicism then I'll have some! I swear you're like a fanatic with this shit. Fuck women dawg! Fuck them! It's mah kid! I'll decide! Only me!
Exactly. I don't care about his view, and I wouldn't force mine on him. Yet he wants to make it a law for me to follow his. And I'd use the term "child" very loosely with this shit.There is no debate. Some people believe killing a child is fin if it's not born yet, and some people don't. There really is no debate. It breaks down to ethics, and everyone's ethics are different. It's not a real debate.
Here let me use the Chris Black method of arguing.
I wonder if Opey loses sleep over all the already born kids dying daily all over the world?
:realist:
Besides who really thinks making it illigeal would make it stop.
I'm not making any list of "legitemate" reasons, cuz then you will just argue about what is legitamite. To me most of them are.
"I don't want it" is good enough for me, so a list is pointless. And you "spotted" me 2 so you'd TAKE AWAY 2 of the best reasons off the list you assumed I'd make. I'm not stupid, stupid.