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    Dear RB

    Dear RB
    I'm sorry; I can't hear you.


    When I give you my heart,
    I’m not looking for praise.
    I guess I lost the passion,
    Or they took it away.

    See, I feel pain in my chest,
    So I write my poems.
    Spill my heart to these kids,
    like I know ‘em

    But they ain’t feelin’ it,
    When I give them my soul, see?
    They don’t want Chris Black.
    They want the old me.

    I hope the cold leaves,
    But I know they can’t understand.
    No matter how much I rewrite,
    & pitch it underhand

    They don’t want truth,
    Nor do they want facts, people.
    I caught my last 3 L’s,
    Cause I wrote about Black people.

    But maybe I expect too much.
    Maybe I should write something dumb.
    They’re White teens,
    & can’t grasp where I’m coming from.

    They want me to make up a story.
    Write what I don’t care about,
    Not about my life as a Black man.
    They say I wear it out.

    But I can only remain me,
    When faced with the obstacles.
    The piece, “Pluck . .Pluck. .Bag,”
    was my greatest topical

    Better than my Legends work,
    So you know that it hurt,
    When I lost the battle,
    To Brandon’s mediocre verse.

    Maybe I’m wrong and arrogant,
    For thinking he didn’t out-write Chris.
    Or maybe it’s because,
    I dropped lines like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Black
    I learned rhythm, through repetition
    and soul, through death.
    The cold had crept into the hole in my chest.
    The hole that was left, by hope, when it fled.

    When I saw I lost that battle,
    I tried to deny it.
    How could I loose,
    To lines like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Cee
    Let the chalice bleed the work of sweat and tears for easy jobs
    While the hog grips his balls and shares sex with sleezy snob
    But maybe he did deserve the win,
    So I kept trucking it,
    & wrote a verse against Mariah.
    I was loving it

    It was one of my illest.
    No one could deny this.
    “That Nigger Shit” was the title,
    It went something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Black
    I’ll spit this nigger shit until my people are done with tears.
    Until we run the sphere, and the cops aren’t on dudes.
    Until blacks can sit under ANY FUKCIN' TREE THEY WANT TO!
    Until artists aren’t forced to follow the latest rap trends.
    Until Bill O’Reilly wakes up with Black skin!!
    Until Bush votes for Obama!. THAT’s WHEN!!
    Then Mariah dropped a verse,
    & I was mad about something.
    She wrote a verse,
    & managed to talk about NOTHING:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariah
    The last speech won awards - that scene in the backseat of a Ford
    While being ignored never struck me with a bad string in it's chord
    Yet her rambling won that batte,
    & I can’t even cope.
    No surprise she was discovered,
    Recently aiming for votes.

    But maybe she had the better verse,
    And no one can feel my shit like me.
    But when I lost those matches
    It felt like they tried to deny me.

    Then last week I lost,
    And Spoken wrote dope
    I thought it was close,
    That could have been hope though.

    I didn’t get a single vote.
    I can’t say it overwhelmed me.
    But it pissed me of,
    When P Mortuus called my verse "underwhelming”

    I put my all out,
    For the love of art.
    So fuck, P,
    Cause that verse was my fucking heart!

    Then I saw the similarity in the 3 loses
    This is the fact:
    I loose whenever
    I write about the history of Blacks

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    But so what?
    They don’t and won’t get it.
    It’s all I can write.
    Kids, I live it

    They want me to change,
    But I can’t hear them.
    I’m sorry, and the voters;
    I don't fear them.

    I’m going to write “that nigger shit,”
    No matter the cost.
    I’ll spill my heart to you,
    & take the GOD-DAMN LOSS!!!!

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    I will take the loss, every fucking week!

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    ChrisBlack Lives (1:50:04 AM): I honestly think most people who read my verse, even if I don't mention their names will take it as a diss to them - the whole topical/poetry community.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:50:39 AM): I think I'll lose and maybe that's pat of the point I'm trying to prove.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:50:51 AM): part*

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:51:26 AM): That it no longer matters to me. I'm going to write shit that very few may be able to relate to and be unappologetic.

    MariahPoetic (1:51:36 AM): from one perspective, that could be true - but it could also leave the people that enjoy you're work or fear you lol, to vote for you out of fear or sympathy.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:51:58 AM): Fear of me never stopped them before.

    MariahPoetic (1:52:11 AM): "oh no, chris loses too much...I feel bad for him...v/Chris"

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:52:22 AM): More people hate me than like me.

    MariahPoetic (1:52:28 AM): not to the extent obviously, but generally speaking, RB politics is shitty.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:52:31 AM): I'm inviting the loss.

    MariahPoetic (1:53:13 AM): I don't see the point. You might as well have posted it in OM or PS and left it at that if you're whole point is to lose.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:54:34 AM): My point isn't to lose. It's to make a statement that I'm going to write whatever comes to my mind, no matter what it is & if I lose, I'm fine with that.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:55:24 AM): It just so happens whenever I go with my heart/mind, I lose. When I pick a stupid topic and write a stupid story I don't give a shit about, I win.

    MariahPoetic (1:55:29 AM): Ah. Well, then, I suppose you're spot on and I think I'm only getting on about it because me and my brother were both named. It seemed liek you personally chose us both...instead of picking a different person and me...or a different person and him.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:57:50 AM): Well, It was the fact that I wrote three verses somehow relating to Black culter and I loved them and they all lost. That's what ties them together. Before those three loses, I'd only lost like twice in the last three years. These losses all came bunched up and my topic in all of them somehow had to do with the Hirstory of my race.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:57:58 AM): They were just ties together.

    ChrisBlack Lives (1:58:36 AM): culture*...Tied*

    MariahPoetic (1:59:14 AM): I see. I'm not worried so much about it anymore...my inital thought was like "this dude always seems to think I'm a shitty writer...blah blah blah..."

    MariahPoetic (2:00:51 AM): and that's only because I have somewhat got an ego myself probably.

    ChrisBlack Lives (2:01:35 AM): Can I post some of this convo in the thread? I actually think I got out a lot more here than I managed in the poem/

    MariahPoetic (2:02:00 AM): I don't mind.
    Hence Forward
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    Re: Dear RB

    I'm sorry I didn't vote for you vs. Mariah...

    But I did say this about your verse against Brandon...
    Well...

    I really dug Brandon's constant stream of metaphors and wordplay...
    That was really tight.

    Real good, insightful shit...can't say anything bad about it cept maybe it rambled a bit towards the end...coulda been wrapped up better, but aside from that small flaw, it was pretty fuckin good.

    However, I was nearly floored by Chris'.
    To me, this was pretty fuckin amazing...great story, great emotion, and great name dropping...awesome tie-ins to the present...well, Aretha ain't exactly present...her best shit was decades ago...but still.

    I know what ya getting at and I'm thoroughly impressed.

    Sorry, Brandon...it's choosing between a very solid, almost flawless presentation...or one that just blew me away. It's tough...but...

    Vote: Chris
    Anyway...

    I know what you're feeling, man...I really do...
    Part of the reason I stayed away from the Final Four voting was out of, well...kinda disgust...was pissed my last verse was received with bullshit comments like, "same old shit", "you should have come diverse", "predictable". "you range as a writer" blah, blah, blah...

    Fuck em.
    I write what I am...what I know...
    I guess interested readers are wearing thin after so many years.

    I dunno if it relates, but I see Kris Kain ranting in EO...kinda the same thing, after 7 years, cats are fuckin with him about "proving himself"...

    You, Kris, and I don't have anything to fuckin prove after so many years, SO many DOPE pieces, so many accolades and all the inspiration we've given cats. Nope.

    Anyway...real nice piece...some cats are gonna label it, "another vet bitching about us noobs"...but fuck that...this was real.

    Peace

    If you have time...leave feed...thanks.

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    Re: Dear RB

    thanx for peepin my OM..glad i'm no the only 1 who feels the same way
    now, i'm going to try to leave feed but i only have 15 min before class so if i don't get finished, i'll edit the rest in later lol

    so..

    i don't have the time to go back and read those 3 battles, but if this was the content you were up against...

    Let the chalice bleed the work of sweat and tears for easy jobs
    While the hog grips his balls and shares sex with sleezy snob

    ...and you wrote at the level i'm used to seeing, i can't see how you could have lost.
    i've noticed the same trend your venting about here which is why i wrote my last OM, "this world i live in" and i'm VERY glad to see others are noticing it/victim to it. Voters here for some odd reason, love to see an OM packed with words they just learned in a dictionary and are strung together into a bunch of pointless multies. I've never seen brandon as a great writer and mariah i dont read much of but spoken i know for a fact is pretty damn good (despite us recently goin at it for a bit) but still i understand completely where you're coming from here. Write a story about a mass murderer w/ some kind of "creative" spin on it and then an unforseeable ending..you win the battle. write about life and write however the fuck you want, regardless of structure..you lose. even if it reads just as smooth written in 10 lines or 20, it's the same outcome. technically speaking..this piece was dope yea, but not your best and i'm pretty sure that's not what you were going for. this was packed with emotion and truth and hopefully others can relate. Shit like this needs to be done more often. fuck the voters, fuck the readers, lol fuck em all...just write man. i honestly don't read damn near anything on this site anymore simply because the content is such garbage or everyone is trying to use "big words" that the writer can't even make sense of what they're trying to say. this on the other hand, well..i was surprised i read it all. i have read a written piece of this length on this site on a while and just the simple fact that u kept me interested the whole way through is fuckin amazing. good shit man...get at me for a collab sometime
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    Re: Dear RB

    This was dope as hell...pretty deep to...you made some good points, something is up...you won those battles EASY! Alot of people only want big letters in the title and creative endings, your piece shows noone really cares about a down to earth topic thats speaking on some real heart felt shit.

    Nice drop.
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    Re: Dear RB

    spoken i know for a fact is pretty damn good (despite us recently goin at) it for a bit
    I wuv you tony...

    Chris... I'll drop my feed from IE... good?

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    Re: Dear RB

    Chris, as usual from you - I liked the drop.
    I think I personally love your shit because
    you actually do write you. You write
    what you are, and what you know - rather
    than conforming to what the readers want
    you to be, or at least act for a week.

    I honestly never read the battles against Brandon, Mariah, or Spoken so I can't really comment on that. I wouldn't take this as a diss to the topical/poetry community in the slightest, more of a notice from you to them/us asking to widen horizons and stop wanting the same thing, asking us to look at something from multiple viewpoints, and well, I agree.

    Pretty nice drop, not your dopest, but you put your heart in it, that's obvious and for that you're always going to get my respect.


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    Re: Dear RB

    This was good, and you could tell it was personal to you
    I’ve not read a lot of your stuff, but just by this I can tell you are someone who writes about what they already know. Rather than what they seek or wish to find out
    A nice drop

    I would appreciate some feed on the link below

    http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/show...ls-378800.html

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    Re: Dear RB

    Meh... I'm sorry to say it but this did come off as bitchy to me. It had some nice emotion and all but at times it was too much, particularly the whole segment about the 3 battles.. if that was the main point of the drop then you needed to start from scratch again. You could've summed that up in a bar with something like this:


    lauded n applauded when I write lame killin stuff
    now I'm been forgotten cause my life aint real enough

    and then added on whatever else you were trying to say... to make a long story short, this piece dragged on too long for me. The topic is getting old but even that wouldn't have really affected by opinion of the piece if you had had a clear point to this. You maybe should've changed the title to "Dear text battle arena" or some shit like that...

    As for the battles themselves... my opinion: People are entitled to their votes, no matter how bullshit you think they are. As long as they're not dissing you in the vote and they broke it down completely and fairly (and the CATS match up with the O/A vote) you have to count it; its a real vote. Take the L and keep moving...

    This drop would've been real nice it you had omitted all the shit about the battles and just stuck to the main point (people need to stop looking at drops and judging the topics on some arbitrary "dope and original text topic" shit) this would've been an easy 8/10. As it is right now, its more like a 7/10.

    Nice multis & flow though.

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    Re: Dear RB

    Thiss piece was real original....Haven't seen an OM approached in this way before....Like how you talked about losing a certain om then qouting lines from both pieces.

    It was kinda like a Lawyer doing the cross-examining process...
    real original chris.
    maybe you shoulda left a link to that battle in this thread...
    so people that didn't see the battle could go peak what you were talkin about.

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    Re: Dear RB

    ^There are links. That's why the phrase "that battle" is underlined. Thanks for all the feed. I will return the favors.
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    Re: Dear RB

    I'm feeling this piece 'n relate through the failed experimentations i've had in my own league.. but, nice way to write about what you know, this was straight forward and on point. keep writing what you want, that's what your serious readers want anyway

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    Re: Dear RB

    And most of the serious readers didn't bother saying this is a poem and not a topical.....bravo!...maybe we can kill ps and just have an all round PMS.

    Anyhow, the piece itself, wasn't original or for that matter unique, I shouldn't need to explain why it's pretty obvious to me and hopefully to you to. However, I liked it, I wasn't high on getting a fuck you but it is what it is, people sometimes need to take out there frustrations or even confusion. I hope this piece helped you do that.

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    Re: Dear RB

    This is dope as fuck. How you expressed how you honestly felt. Against all the bullshit. Flow was solid, rhyme scheme was great. Quoting was good, helped it go along with everything else. This was very dope. hence, I'm nominating this...in a second, but yea I thought this was more of poetry

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    Re: Dear RB

    i just liked it, it was like the rap battle forum story of chris black

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