Thoughts on Sotomayor race comment?

[Born To Kill]

Just wondering what you cats make of this...

Sotomayor's 2001 speech to a Hispanic group in Berkeley...

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life,"

Sotomayor said in that speech, describing how life experience can inform judicial opinions.
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So...does that mean a Hispanic woman makes a better judge than a black man or woman? Makes a better judge than a white woman? Than any other race?

What's she mean by that, do you think?

[Opie M.]

She's addressing Latina women, so why would she say anything about women of other races? Her wording was racially biased, but if she's addressing a problem that exists more within that social group then I don't see anything wrong with it. She's actually addressing women who are racist against her own race. This is a common problem among black women as well. I could see how this problem could become an issue among all minority groups.

[Zed]

she seems lovely and inspiring. just watched her nomination speech.

[Caesar Augustus]

why not post a link to the entire speech? I mean it doesn't sound bad as is and I'm guessing it sounds even better in context considering you posted it Born

[Born To Kill]

why not post a link to the entire speech? I mean it doesn't sound bad as is and I'm guessing it sounds even better in context considering you posted it Born

I gave no opinion...why jump to conclusions?

I wanted to know if you agreed...and if...you think...as she's mentioned in another quote...

Is it her job to MAKE laws...

Or to interpret and inforce what we already have?

[Caesar Augustus]

I gave no opinion...why jump to conclusions?

I wanted to know if you agreed...and if...you think...as she's mentioned in another quote...

Is it her job to MAKE laws...

Or to interpret and inforce what we already have?

You quoted the most misleading part of the speech! you didn't have to give an opinion the nature of the question and the quote said enough.

I also hope that by raising the question today of what difference having more Latinos and Latinas on the bench will make will start your own evaluation. For people of color and women lawyers, what does and should being an ethnic minority mean in your lawyering? For men lawyers, what areas in your experiences and attitudes do you need to work on to make you capable of reaching those great moments of enlightenment which other men in different circumstances have been able to reach. For all of us, how do change the facts that in every task force study of gender and race bias in the courts, women and people of color, lawyers and judges alike, report in significantly higher percentages than white men that their gender and race has shaped their careers, from hiring, retention to promotion and that a statistically significant number of women and minority lawyers and judges, both alike, have experienced bias in the courtroom?

Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate.

There is always a danger embedded in relative morality, but since judging is a series of choices that we must make, that I am forced to make, I hope that I can make them by informing myself on the questions I must not avoid asking and continuously pondering. We, I mean all of us in this room, must continue individually and in voices united in organizations that have supported this conference, to think about these questions and to figure out how we go about creating the opportunity for there to be more women and people of color on the bench so we can finally have statistically significant numbers to measure the differences we will and are making.

I am delighted to have been here tonight and extend once again my deepest gratitude to all of you for listening and letting me share my reflections on being a Latina voice on the bench. Thank you.

thats the entire part of the 1/50 of the speech you quoted and here is a link to the entire speech what your trying to make it sound like she said is not what she said at all


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us...ewanted=1&_r=1

[Born To Kill]

I'm just posting the comment that's all over CNN, FoxNews, etc...

I didn't research the speech, pick out that one part...

Whine to the press, not me.

[Caesar Augustus]

I'm just posting the comment that's all over CNN, FoxNews, etc...

I didn't research the speech, pick out that one part...

Whine to the press, not me.

well how do you even know what to think of it yourself without researching? This is why I don't respect your opinion you just hear it on tv and do no research for yourself if you would have bothered to just check a few other sources on TV you would see people blasting fox and CNN for only quoting that one part of the speech to mislead people like you.

[Brother Blue Collar]

well how do you even know what to think of it yourself without researching? This is why I don't respect your opinion you just hear it on tv and do no research for yourself if you would have bothered to just check a few other sources on TV you would see people blasting fox and CNN for only quoting that one part of the speech to mislead people like you.

i don't think he cares.

[Caesar Augustus]

i don't think he cares.

probably not more then what he was spoon fed, but he posted it up so he must have found it interesting.

[Born To Kill]

i don't think he cares.

We have a winner!

[Chris Black]

I've given up on people. Thank you, BTK and the RB supporting cast.

[Born To Kill]

Bows for you...

Past that comment though...

I'm starting to see rumblings in the press that she's old school Latina...
Meaning heavy religious beliefs...

Meaning, she's not really hype on abortion.

That's what I saw on MSN...didn't read too much about it yet.

Just rambling.

[Kris Cain]

the press is full of fuckery

[Born To Kill]

That it is...

And I hope they're wrong.

Reversing Roe vs. Wade would be insane.

Revolutionary type shit.