Producers/Beatmakers... what is your setup?

[Kris Cain]

Here's mine for making tracks...

- A million drum kits/samples
- Roland Fantom X series
- Yamaha Motif
- Nuendo 3
- Vangaurd
- NI FM8
- Battery 3
- DBX 586 Stereo Preamp
- Lexicon PCM81
- 2 Yamaha 02R Digital Consoles
- Dynaudio BM5 monitors


some upgrades coming in the near future

- Avatone Mixcubes
- New stereo mic preamp (havent decided on which yet)
- RME Fireface 800
- Apogee Rosetta 200
- Yamaha Motif XS6
- Roland V-Synth GT
- FXpansion GURU (to replace battery 3)



notice... no more FLStudio. LOL. I'm free!

[Gestures]

watchu mean no more FL..like its a bad thing? im lost

[Kris Cain]

it's not a bad thing, I still encourage people to use it if they are REAL comfortable with it...

it's just too confining for the veteran producer, and I've been a avid user since version 1. (I NEVER cared about the stigma that came with using it... I've made tons of hot tracks with it)

But truth be told....
There are alot of options that are quicker, and more powerful than FLStudio. I can't use JUST FLStudio anymore. It's wayyyyyy too much of a hassle to use any type of hardware with FL. The audio clips system is like chinese algebra. Too complicated to record a simple riff or note. Then the MIDI isnt rock solid, the automation is too complicated, and the quality just isnt there, compared to other systems, it just sounds like a veil is over the track in FL. The audio engine leaves much to be deisred in comparison to something like Logic, or Nuendo.

I was using it in conjunction with Nuendo... but as a rewire client, You have to have a dual screen setup to be comfortable. Then i realized, that your drums sound 130% percent better when they're imported into nuendo. So... then i started using FL as a VST plugin within Nuendo, just to use it's browser to drag and drop drums and samples. That presented the problem of sequencing manually within Nuendo, it's worth it cuz of the quality increase and control you have over your drums... but it's time consuming, and can suck away from the "creative inspiration".

In comes Battery 3...
I never looked back at FLStudio. I can do my sampling, and drums in battery... sequence it all through MIDI within Nuendo... and easily use my keyboards, and hardware fx all at once with ease.

next on my list is gettin FXpansion Guru... it has a built in sequencer within it, and has all the depth and ease of Battery. Eliminating yet another step, making my ideas flow quicker, allowing me to put out my best stuff while the inspiration is still there.

[Kris Cain]

If you ever try to track a piano player through midi in FL... you'll quickly realize how funny the midi acts, and how tedious it is to make corrections due to no true smart quantizing. The pattern system is also hampering in a situation like that. In Nuendo, it's like 2 clicks to get it going after its setup, as opposed to FL were it's like 5, then if you want to add some automation... good luck.

but like i said... I'm a veteran producer.

[Kris Cain]

i need to write a book about effective methods of making tracks.

[Gestures]

dang sons you lost me there

[Paze]

It's wayyyyyy too much of a hassle to use any type of hardware with FL.

Very true and it sucks

[Paze]

Which Motif you have btw? They like $3k

[Zed Peace]

show us a beat made with FL, and another without FL at all. and we decide which is hotter. lol.

[WareProductions]

i got:

-Edirol PCR50 Midi Controller
-Event TR-8s
-Midisport 2x2
-M-Audio delta 66
-Reason 3.0
-Battery 3
-Cubase SX3
-Shit loads of drums and unassorted samples
-Mad reason refills


Future Purchases
-Access Virus Synth
-Kurzweil PC3
-Korg Kontrol Pad
-Comp. Upgrade

[Kris Cain]

show us a beat made with FL, and another without FL at all. and we decide which is hotter. lol.

it's not about "hotter"...
it's about workflow, and ability to get your ideas out faster.
which is just as important. Beats always come out hotter when the ideas and inspiration is flowing constantly.

less throw away beats = bigger catalog of hot beats = more potential to make money, or get placements.

plus since i moved to a predominately sample free production style, its alot easier for me.

some of the gear i use would be rendered useless if i was restricted to fruity.

my point is, you can only use it comfortably to a certain point.

[Q]

Equipment used:
Stanton STR8-100 Digital Turntable
M44-7 Needle
SA-5 Stanton Allies Allstar Beatdown DJ Mixer
Fl's 5.0/6.0
Midi Controller
Emu 1212m
Cool Edit Pro 2.0
Wharfedale DP8.2A Diamond Pro Active Monitors
AT 3035 Condensor
Yamaha MG 10/2 Mixer
MMP-2 Roland Pre Amp
MicroKorg

[Brandon Heat]

fl... nuendo... but that's soon to pass...


a dude I know has a motif and a roland rack... I started making joints on that... and fuck... wow. So... That's the next move... especially the motif since it works as a vst in cubase/nuendo... dynaudio bm6a's com in tomorrow I think... so word... I'm going to make love to those...


sidenote: I used an mpc to make a beat... I have to take back alot that I've said about them... not useless... but shit... they feel so nice yo... pretty easy...

[JayFro407]

Imac 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo, gig of ram
Reason3
Garageband... damit
Fireface400
blue robbie the mic pre
blue kiwi
Mogami and kiwi cables..

Dam my lists too small, ridin to guitar center pz.

[Kris Cain]

especially the motif since it works as a vst in cubase/nuendo... ...

so does the roland fantom x, through the usb port.