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    Rap Industry Exposed

    It got me thinkin...


    I found this on another message board. Please read it.

    Fu-k what you've heard about the industry to now, fu-k all major record labels and fu-k all major recording artists as well, fu-k Nas, Jay, Em, Nelly, Chingy, Jermaine Dupri, Dr. Dre, Russell Simmons, The ROC, All Of Shady, Desert Storm, R. Kelly, Fabolous, Joe Budden, all mainstream rappers I haven't mentioned. Let me tell you the real industry............

    I've been signed for about 4 months now to a major label and now I wish I never started rapping, producing, or even getting into the music business, I'm going to college. You know why underground rappers never shine?? You wanna know why it's so hard to get a deal?? You wanna know why some artists can write 6-7 albums while some cats struggle to write one?? You wanna know why It's more A&R's that exists on labels than it is actual artists on the label?? You wanna know why Interscope is suppressing the whole Eminem thing??

    Here Goes.......

    Most cats believe they can get a deal by spittin' some sick lyrics or making some good songs, wrong. You know what labels do?? A&R's don't look for artists, not at all, Labels sign around 25 artists per decade and then freeze signings. A&R's don't go look for the next big artists, they look for hit songs and writing pools and people who can sing backup vocals. A&R's aren't worried about finding artists with star quality that have interesting backgrounds, oh no, not at all.

    Here's how they do rappers.........Raping-U-Records artists are starting to get old and played out so they send an A&R out to find a punkass rapper who lives in a respectable area. Next, they make sure the artist is marketable, then they'll sign the artist. Now Rapper A has a record deal with no previous history of rapping, next the label will setup a front to make it look like they discovered the artist (might sign a kid first, then set it up to make it look like this kid was rapping in front of a crowd at a gas station where a highly known A&R just happened to be getting gas from).

    Next, they'll sit down with the artist and have this reality talk to them, explaining to them that the industry is a business and none of this is real. Now, they'll overexagerate their background and even lie about their age and where they grew up, they'll push a suburban to a harder area then they're really from. They find a an angle (pop's died, parents divorced, got shot, sold drugs, friend died) and push that angle to build the artist sentimental respect (who likes a punk who lived a perfect life??). They'll use that angle to build a story around them and how that event or events affected them.

    Now, they hit the studio, right?? Wrong!! Now here is what real A&R's are meant for. They'll send out their A&R's and ****** cats like me will kill to get the demo in their hands, once these A&R's have a good number of SOLICITED demo's they'll tell Rappers B, C and D to send the label some material. Rappers B, C and D think they might get a deal, so they get their demo package together with Bio, Pic's, Press Kit and the actual demo. They probably tellin' their guys that they finna get signed and ish. Wrong........

    Now A&R B is at the label listening to the demos of Rapper B, C and D. A&R B doesn't care for anything but the songs. A&R B is really feeling Rapper B and D's demo's (capable hit songs) but not Rapper C. So that's when Rapper C gets the rejection letter. Now the A&R is interested in Rapper B & D's material, so they'll write them and ask them to send more material, now B & D really think they're gonna get signed.

    A&R B listens again and feels as if Rapper D isn't as good as he thought he was but still feels Rapper B. Now he sends a rejection letter to Rapper D. Now the contact is made with Rapper B and a meeting is set up. Sounds lovely right?? Keep Reading....A&R B and Rapper B and a few exec's have a meeting and now Rapper B is hit with REALITY. A&R B explains the real music business and gives Rapper B a choice, either walk out that door and be forever blackballed or the alternative.

    You remember Rapper A, right?? Rapper B has been hit with the reality that he will never be a star. Rapper B just sent in about 10 songs to A&R B which were purchased and now will be on Rapper A's album. Rapper B is now merely part of a writing pool, he will continue to make songs under the supervision of an A&R, only not for himself, for everyone else. Now Rapper B sends about 10-20 songs to Rapin-U-Records every 3 months and now Rapper A, Rapper X, Rapper J and Singer T go through Rapper B's material as well as the other hundred's of Rappers and Singers that are merely writing pools material and pick which song they want on their album.

    Now here is where the process takes place, Rapper A chooses 3 songs from Rapper B, 4 songs from Rapper Y and 2 songs from Singer U to make an album. Rapper A might want to do his own song so the label gives Rapper A 2 slots to do his own songs. When the album is finished, starving artists in writing pools are paid off and SILENCED. Now you can read the credits and see Rapper A's name all over, but it's to fool you, the sheep, the cats who buy the albums and the ****** chickenheads that believe anything in writing.

    Rapper A has candy stories and rumors started by people at the label that grow and make the Rapper more respectable, more harder and more controversial to keep the life span of Rapper A alive. Guess what?? If an A&R finds someone else who's making better songs than Rapper B, they cut him off and blackball him to keep him silenced, it's that simple, fuk what you heard and believe. Beef?? Real or fake?? Ima tell you this, more beef's in the past and present then you brainwashed muthafukaz will ever believe are fake, some are real but even then you'll believe what you want. Once Rapper A falls off (not lyrically, not songwise) marketwise, they drop them and a new era of MUSIC INDUSTRY BULLSH*T arises.

    And that's just the rappers, I'm not even going to get into producing, all Ima say is that most of your respectable producers are merely NAMES, you believe PRODUCER B is ths ish?? PRODUCER B can produce, but how do you think they can produce so many hot songs at one time?? They don't, a label will send out A&R's to find clones (people who've been influenced and therefore have the same sound) of the producer and the same process as with Rapper's A, B, C and D will spark up with producers too. THINK ABOUT IT........

    Why do think it took Twista and Memphis Bleek so long to come out again, huh?? Cuz they wanted to write their own albums and didn't want to fall victim, too bad that's not for most of the ROC. Why do you think Ali Vegas will probably never drop and even when he drops, watch what happens......Why do you think 50 Cent couldn't get a deal after Trackmasters?? How come the Bravehearts took so long?? And then didn't even get pushed, promoted or even have money put behind them?? Hey Chicago, where is 3Piece?? Why do you think both MTV MC Battles promised Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella Contracts but Reignman's on his own label and Wreckognize aint on the Roc?? How come Shawnna got shelved?? Why did Universal lie about Nelly's age?? Why did it take Jin some 2 and a half years to come out with a single?? Where the hell is Postaboy?? What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars?? Cats know the truth and don't like it, it's that simple.......

    How would you like it if you've been rapping since you were 7, been hustlin demos, doing meaningless talent showcases and then you finally get a deal at age 20 and now you've become Rapper B?? The industry messes people up for real and half these cats who see the Bling Bling and girls think that's all their is, it's like finding out God doesn't really exists and now I've become Rapper B.

    Sh*t like this gets cats killed for real, the industry is shady and what you've seen on TV, them DVD's, in interviews, VH1, MTV, whatever is nothing but the "GHOST INDUSTRY" that you've been led to believe is how it is and none of you have any idea, I hate the music industry, I hate the entertainment business, I'm going to college, getting my degree and am leaving this is behind me, FU*K COLUMBIA RECORDS and most of all, ya'll can SU*K my D*CK. To the industry heads on here, F*CK U, go ahead, yeah, I've broken the silence, only the underground is real, FU*K the industry.......

    I'm uppin this til everyone reads it, I thought I was about live out my dream and now I've been exposed to the nightmare that is the industry. I was brainwashed, now I'm not, everything I've said in this post is the truth, anything you've heard or been led to believe is bull, this post applies to all them STUDIO wankstaz.......

    Cat's I know got ghostwriters and songs come from writing pools.........Fuk what you believe........

    Clipse
    Snoop
    Nas
    D-Block
    Eminem
    Fabolous
    Biggie
    Static
    Joe Budden
    Nelly
    Mase
    Chingy
    Ludacris
    Kanye West
    Trick Daddy
    Cassidy
    Jay-Z
    Young Gunz
    Murphy Lee

    I'm uppin this till the world blows up, think about this ish seriously and a lot of ish will start to make more sense......

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    LMAO...dis is old...dis was posted here awhile ago...

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    old... wtf.

    and this dont expose nothing.
    Welcome to reality.

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    word...find prroof..

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    yeah, how can we believe the guy.. he has no real backbone as to make us believe him

    and really, i don't even think there were textee cats and shit back in Biggie dayz, get the fuck outta here lol

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    yo, biggie and nas and jay-z and even eminem ghostwrite for peops, and the guy who said this is probably just some cat who didn't sound good but had some nice writing styles, so he didn't get to make it big in the buisiness and got shut down

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    lol ya this shits old as fuck

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    IS this the thanks i get HELLO!!! FUck ya'll...lol

    And besides It's all Business.........so who really cares.
    Last edited by Key Tone; April 4th, 2004 at 08:24 PM

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    lol

    thx *is lying* *hopes he can't read this*

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    this is old, its still not gloing to stop me from rapping.

    if i have to ill sell crack and start my own label

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    its bullshit...this nigga wus sayin that 2pac biggie nas jayz and em got ghostwriters...i dont fuckin think so....

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    Almost had me convinced except for one huge error.

    If Rapper A is just some cool guy/girl that is chosen to rap songs other real rappers have written... where did they get their rap skills from? What the fuck? Just because the writers are good, for example, does not give the rapper A (the marketable guy) amazing flow and delivery. You don't learn that in one session with the A&R.

    And if people like Eminem and Nas really are part of writing pools and didn't have their own skills, how the hell do you explain their underground days? I'm sure Infinite was 100% GURAUTEED to do 8x platinum... pff this was just written by some backpacker who wants people to stop listening to mainstream because it pisses him off to see people better than him making money.

    PS. Immortal Technique is dope :P

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    well they sed that 2pac didnt really write dear mamma, and that he bought it off an inmate in jail.. thats how they explain the lyrics about being in a penitentiary instead of elementary skool... and a mother claims that those were her sons words...

    plus, i dont doubt that sum of this is true.. i mean a lot of rappers take concepts, and ideas from ppl... and they sed that in terms of artists like Nas who hafta deliver a club record, they may turn 2 writing pools.. u never kno...
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    ^ yeah, but I wouldn't have the concsience to let someone write most of something like God's Son which is really personal (with his mother's death and all) for me. Same goes for things like Dear Mama.

    I don't doubt it might happen in some cases, but not in all of mainstream hip-hop.

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    Most cats believe they can get a deal by spittin' some sick lyrics or making some good songs, wrong. You know what labels do?? A&R's don't look for artists, not at all, Labels sign around 25 artists per decade and then freeze signings. A&R's don't go look for the next big artists

    ummm.....dre signed eminem for being sick.......jay-z signed kanye for being sick......puffy signed Biggie for being sick.....PERIOD

    no A&R would think biggie could sell, hes was fat, ugly and poor.
    no A&R would think Eminem would sell, hes white, in a black dominated industry, another vanilla ice, but outspoken n poor

    LOLOLOL none of this makes any sense



    Eminem----b4 he was signed had underground mix tapes and MC battles you can cop. how could he have a ghostwriter when his style hasnt changed and why would he have a ghostwriter when his shit was sicker than anyone out?

    JayZ---i know A&R didnt touch him. he started his own label from scratch. so nobody had a "reality talk to him" lol. kids...........

    and writting pools??? lol everyone knows main stream sellout rappers have ghost writer. but your accousing real from the dome, from the heart vet MC's.

    and plus everyone knows if your demos out alot, theres someone gonna bite a peice offa it.


    fuck this thread, makes no sense, all bullshit
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