America Losing Faith in Obama?

Poll: Americans losing confidence in Obama
Fri Aug 21, 5:49 am ET

WASHINGTON – A new poll says that Americans, concerned over the future of health care reform and anxious about the growing federal budget deficit, are losing faith in President Barack Obama.

The Washington Post-ABC News survey found that less that half of Americans — 49 percent — say they believe the president will make the right decisions for the country. That's down from 60 percent at the 100-day mark of the Obama presidency.

The poll published Friday says Obama's overall approval is 57 percent, 12 points lower than it was at its peak in April. Fifty-three percent disapprove of the way he's handling the budget deficit and his approval on health care continues to deteriorate.

The national survey was conducted Aug. 13-17 and has a sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

People's expectations were way too high to begin with. They're beginning to see reality. Not that these polls mean much though.

yeah, people were acting like Obama was going to be some kind of savior, but instead they're realizing he was never anything close.

it was all hype

Americans are fickle....and they scare easily...

Can we please, please go back to the threads during elections when I said all of these things but not because of republican views but because of basic rules in politics?

Win for foresight.

Ron Paul anyone? That's who I voted for.

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Originally Posted by The Bosniak

Americans are fickle....and they scare easily...

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BISH!
*Throws a stone toward his view of canada from downtown detroit*

take that!

His approval on healthcare wouldn't keep deteriorating if people a) stopped lying their fucking asses off and b) Obama stopped trying to please the replublicans and therefore piss off democrats.

Keeping half an eye on this healthcare thing has basically lowered my optimism not so much in Obama as just in anything ever getting done for the good of anything ever.

I think Obama wasn't ready to take on the role of President. And people fell in love with the idea of a first black President who happened to be pretty young. So the younger generation felt they could have a down to earth President. But then again, Obama was given a full plate so you can't blame him for not being able to tackle on these problems right away. He's only been been President for almost 9 months.

And thank the lord that Ron Paul isn't president. I thought he was alright for a little while until I started paying attention, really not my kind of dude even if i have some respect for him.

^word to Harmon, he's only been in it 9+ months =/

i knew the nigga wasnt from the get...i'm one of the people who voted for "The Black Guy"

with all this shit hes gotta move thru, i dont expect anything big to pop for least 2 years. As far as the economy, but honestly i thought the whole health care thing woulda went maaaaddd smoother than this shit =/

Regarding the stimulus etc, i really don't have a clue about that. I'm not surprised it's caused support to go down. But I really couldn't make anything approaching an informed decision about it, so i'll just see how that one goes.

But yeah, polls like this will be much more helpful once we've seen if he can actually get anything done. If the US gets an improved healthcare system under Obama then that's a great thing. If he keeps comprimising that in order to appease a lot of people who have been suckered into believing a lot of shit then it's not looking so great.

As for the economy.. it was fucked before he became President. And some people have a hard time accepting that it takes some time to fix that kind of shit. I mean it took Bush years to fuck it up. Now give Obama some time to repair it..

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Originally Posted by Harmon E. Soundz

As for the economy.. it was fucked before he became President. And some people have a hard time accepting that it takes some time to fix that kind of shit. I mean it took Bush years to fuck it up. Now give Obama some time to repair it..

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my sentiments exactly... no approach would have made the economy any better today. I do believe that the admin took steps that kept the economy from getting any worse than it could have been. Extending unemployment benefits and lowering healthcare cost for those unemployed is beneficial for those looking for full time work again. I knew his approval rating would go down, it comes with the territory. We live in a NOW society, meaning if the new popular President, who campaigned on a message of change doesnt get things done NOW, then he is a failure. That is the approach of many people especially those that opposed him in the first place. Most still understand that it takes time to come out of a recession. Some were giving him one or two years, before we started to see the economy turn around. I personally didnt think we would be completely out of the water for at least fours years. I would give Obama two full terms to really make the kind of changes he campaigned. The reason being is because he has had to place his focus on other things. Two wars are in place, he promised to end the war in Iraq, which he has set a date when soldiers will start to be removed from Iraq. The problem is the War is Afgahnistan is his, he said during the election we were fighting the wrong war and did feel that we need to put more troops in afghanistan to make sure that turf wasnt over run by terrorist. Either way this is his war with his name on it and many people dont agree with us being over there. It doesnt surprise me his poll numbers have gone down, it happens to every president who serve during a time of crisis.. and Obama isnt immune.

^ Couldn't have said it better myself..

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Originally Posted by Jaq Noff

BISH!
*Throws a stone toward his view of canada from downtown detroit*

take that!

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its the same shit. applies to both. it's all the same shit to any imigrants that come here lol

when we were coming here everyone kept saying theyre going to america even tho its technicly canada lmao

ugh @ how many people think the President has control over the economy. . .

LoL.

Federal Reserve.

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Originally Posted by Baxter D. Wall

ugh @ how many people think the President has control over the economy. . .

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indeed, however he is the figurehead

and if there was no president....who would we bitch too/blame?

I would fucking ejaculate if Ron Paul ever became the republican candidate.

That is one perfect motherfucker.

Can we make a Ron Paul thread? Is that allowed? Just to discuss how flawless the man is?

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Originally Posted by A-Pox

I would fucking ejaculate if Ron Paul ever became the republican candidate.

That is one perfect motherfucker.

Can we make a Ron Paul thread? Is that allowed? Just to discuss how flawless the man is?

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Nooooooooooo. lol.

He's a good speaker though, I've enjoyed listening to him on a fair few subjects, although I can't sympathise with a lot of his ideas. A little too much libertarian love for an idealised free-market.

Word. It is usually pretty discouraging to watch politics unfold. It's all a big game to them.

Wait.. all those americans.. they did not actually think.. that what happens and gets told in campaigns.. will be ''realised'' in 2 weeks?

or at all for that matter.. just like that? c'mon.

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Originally Posted by Jaq Noff

^word to Harmon, he's only been in it 9+ months =/

i knew the nigga wasnt from the get...i'm one of the people who voted for "The Black Guy"

with all this shit hes gotta move thru, i dont expect anything big to pop for least 2 years. As far as the economy, but honestly i thought the whole health care thing woulda went maaaaddd smoother than this shit =/

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I didn't expect anything for atleast a year

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Originally Posted by Engivale

LoL.

Federal Reserve.

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Yeah.

good speaker thoe but he was kinda overrated with being a savior but he a decent president

Its amazing to see the lack of patience that people have just because America's issues aren't drastically improving yet. Give Obama a chance for Christ sake. The man hasn't even been in the office for a year yet. lol

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Originally Posted by Revelationz.

Its amazing to see the lack of patience that people have just because America's issues aren't drastically improving yet. Give Obama a chance for Christ sake. The man hasn't even been in the office for a year yet. lol

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well, its not amazing to me to see the lack of patience among the america people, its a reality. like i said before, this is a fix the problem NOW society, if Obama cant fix the economy, solve the unemployment crisis, end both wars and try to reform healthcare all in like 20 minutes people start to say, well he isnt doing anything. Being President of the United States isnt an easy job, especially during this particular time. And its even harder fixing a mess someone else left for you to clean up.

If republicans are all of a sudden so interested in reforming healthcare, where the hell were they for the past 8 freaking years. Healthcare was an issue before the Bill Clinton was in office, but at least he attempted to reform it. He lost, "W" got in office and didnt do squat...now Obama has decided to tackle the issue, while still trying to deal with the other crisis in the country and people are losing patience, it baffles me, but its reality...

this national deficit thing is crazy, Obama spending trillions like they was billions. i swear you give a black dude a grip of money and power and they use all irresponsibly, like rappers who buy shitloads of bling, and other useless items just throwing around money. The only difference is that Obama's endless spending effects eeryone, especially future genrations. smh

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Originally Posted by )(

this national deficit thing is crazy, Obama spending trillions like they was billions. i swear you give a black dude a grip of money and power and they use all irresponsibly, like rappers who buy shitloads of bling, and other useless items just throwing around money. The only difference is that Obama's endless spending effects eeryone, especially future genrations. smh

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kinda racist homie.

it's ridiculous to think you're going to get out of a recession without spending any money.

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Originally Posted by )(

this national deficit thing is crazy, Obama spending trillions like they was billions. i swear you give a black dude a grip of money and power and they use all irresponsibly, like rappers who buy shitloads of bling, and other useless items just throwing around money. The only difference is that Obama's endless spending effects eeryone, especially future genrations. smh

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Except if it works as they hope it will, it will benefit those future generations. So, leaving aside your presumably sarcastic racism, it's not a particular appropriate charge in the first place.

Whether the spend-the-way-out plan will work or not, i don't know. But some people obviously believe it will. The intent behind it is for the benefit of the country, he doesn't just want to be frivolous with a load of cash. It's like the healthcare thing - Obama wants public healthcare, why? So he can help the less fortunate? Well, duh. But for some, there simply must be an ulterior motive. In the case of healthcare, it's because he wants to plot to secretly euthanize the elderly. Of course!

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Originally Posted by Humphrey Bogart

kinda racist homie.

it's ridiculous to think you're going to get out of a recession without spending any money.

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you have to spend some money, but it needs to be spent more wisely imo, and less of it. your gonna be heated when your $ ain't worth 1/2 what it was in the future and everyone will be cursing Obama for ruining the value of our currency and he will go down as the worst president, in terms of spending policy. we have barely seen any improvement, and we already spendt a grip, so fuck Obama. yah, i said it.

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Originally Posted by phlymo

Except if it works as they hope it will, it will benefit those future generations. So, leaving aside your presumably sarcastic racism, it's not a particular appropriate charge in the first place.

Whether the spend-the-way-out plan will work or not, i don't know. But some people obviously believe it will. The intent behind it is for the benefit of the country, he doesn't just want to be frivolous with a load of cash. It's like the healthcare thing - Obama wants public healthcare, why? So he can help the less fortunate? Well, duh. But for some, their simply must be an ulterior motive. In the case of healthcare, it's because he wants to plot to secretly euthanize the elderly. Of course!

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lol, who knows. yah free health care is dope, but its sorta like socialism, and once again he wants to spend a shitload of money and not raise taxes to do it. to have free healthcare would cost so much extra moeny a year, and will just inflate the currency. it jsut seems strange that no other president has tried to do this, and maybe there is a good reason... cuz its not economical.

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lol, who knows. yah free health care is dope, but its sorta like socialism, and once again he wants to spend a shitload of money and not raise taxes to do it. to have free healthcare would cost so much extra moeny a year, and will just inflate the currency. it jsut seems strange that no other president has tried to do this, and maybe there is a good reason... cuz its not economical.

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what's so bad about socialism?

really?

besides it being deemed non-america?

i really wanna know someone enlight me?

our dollars become less due to economy not due to the president's spending.

loloolol @ the black guy spends

as opposed to the white guys who PUT YOU IN THE CRISIS

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Originally Posted by )(

lol, who knows. yah free health care is dope, but its sorta like socialism, and once again he wants to spend a shitload of money and not raise taxes to do it. to have free healthcare would cost so much extra moeny a year, and will just inflate the currency. it jsut seems strange that no other president has tried to do this, and maybe there is a good reason... cuz its not economical.

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The socialism comparison is just silly imo. You have a million and one things in place in your country already that are 'sorta like socialism'. They would never be taken away, because the country benefits from them every day. People would fight to keep those things, because they have fought to have them put in place. The 'Socialism' cry is a bullshit tactic to scare a country that still shits itself any time anyone mentions communism. If free helthcare is 'dope', judge it on that.

And there have been presidents fighting for healthcare reform for decades and decades. This is nothing new.

But let's follow the logic you used, and make the opposite argument based on something that is actually true: America is the only developed capitalist country with a private healthcare system in place. Every other developed capitalist country has a public healthcare system in place, and as far as I know, none is seeking to return to a private system. Maybe there is a good reason?

Lastly, regarding the cost. America currently spends more on healthcare than any of the universal systems of other countries. If you weigh them up, public systems cost a hell of a lot less. Whether the US can manage to manage to replicate these much lower costs is the big question.

Based on all i have learnt of this subject, I definitely support healthcare reform. I would also hate to see the UK adopt a private system, but it isn't even a debate here. People support the NHS. I still don't know enough about the topic, but i've seen a lot of arguments against a universal system and none has convinced me. A lot have been based on outright lies and scare tactics, and all the valid ones that i have seen have been countered to my satisfaction.

Whatever the US does, it just needs to be feasible. If they can make reform feasible, i'm well behind it.

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Originally Posted by The Bosniak

loloolol @ the black guy spends

as opposed to the white guys who PUT YOU IN THE CRISIS

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He doesn't look at those facts. He's an ignorant racist piece of shit with a one sided mind. "Blame the black guy". Faggot..

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Originally Posted by phlymo

The socialism comparison is just silly imo. You have a million and one things in place in your country already that are 'sorta like socialism'. They would never be taken away, because the country benefits from them every day. People would fight to keep those things, because they have fought to have them put in place. The 'Socialism' cry is a bullshit tactic to scare a country that still shits itself any time anyone mentions communism. If free helthcare is 'dope', judge it on that.

And there have been presidents fighting for healthcare reform for decades and decades. This is nothing new.

But let's follow the logic you used, and make the opposite argument based on something that is actually true: America is the only developed capitalist country with a private healthcare system in place. Every other developed capitalist country has a public healthcare system in place, and as far as I know, none is seeking to return to a private system. Maybe there is a good reason?

Lastly, regarding the cost. America currently spends more on healthcare than any of the universal systems of other countries. If you weigh them up, public systems cost a hell of a lot less. Whether the US can manage to manage to replicate these much lower costs is the big question.

Based on all i have learnt of this subject, I definitely support healthcare reform. I would also hate to see the UK adopt a private system, but it isn't even a debate here. People support the NHS. I still don't know enough about the topic, but i've seen a lot of arguments against a universal system and none has convinced me. A lot have been based on outright lies and scare tactics, and all the valid ones that i have seen have been countered to my satisfaction.

Whatever the US does, it just needs to be feasible. If they can make reform feasible, i'm well behind it.

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Its ashamed that someone that doesnt even live in this country understands politics in the country more than the average american, or at least more than your average RB member LOL. But i also have to assume that RB members are from all over the world.

But i digress..


well said though Phlymo, i couldnt have said it better myself... what people are missing is how healthcare reform will save this country money in the long run. Yes it cost to start a program of this scale. But is no reason not to do it. People that love their insurance can keep it, according to the plan Obama has proposed. I dont understand what is so wrong about that. For those that are tired of the insurance companies raping them and then NOT covering them after paying premiums forever just so they can make a profit want the option to have the govt insure their health. Its competition, what wrong with competition, if the insurance companies are so perfect then, they dont have anything to worry about right. All these insurance company advocates at these townhalls who love their health insurance will keep these companies in business. We dont have to worry about a certain portion of the population they will absolutely refuse to let the govt give them coverage. Well until they get dropped for having some condition the insurance company doesnt cover. I guess these people will have to have something taken away from them (their job, their insurance coverage, or even worse their ability to work because of illness) before they realize that the proposals put forward can help them in the future..

its funny how if i called George Bush a honkey no1 would give a shit. And its sorta makes my point valid cuz Baracks the 1st Black President, has already spent more $ than any other president in history, and the other 43 presidents were white. an1 who thinks you can spend your way out of a recession. just wait till inflation starts up, after the funding stops and those busineess that were porpped up by stimlulus money start going back to their previous state, and then evertyhing will double in price, and then no1 will buy shit cuz its too expensive and then it will worsen the economy. you think taking 78 trillion out is not going to have any effect on the currency value. and its way eaiser to sepnd 78 tril than it it is to make that money back. smh

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Originally Posted by The Spaniard

if you really want to continue making this a race issue, i could just go ahead and ban you right now.

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i'm just making an observation, i'm not saying all black people are the same, every person is there own person, not a race. its more of a generalization, not racism, but i won't bring it up again.