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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Amen
Lol @ Messiah being #1 with a 41-0 record, total of 41 battles and only a 93% win percentage.
The math isn’t math’n lmao
Wins was added manually and not through battle hack
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Amen
Ranking should be based off a point system.
Max votes = 5.
Vote = 1pt.
Winning = 5pts
Losing = - 5pts
Also a way to wager points during battles. This all exist, I’ve seen it done before back in the ol’ days.
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Hahaha
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Votes will help offset the consequence of losing, obviously.
Little complex but simple. EGO’s will cost pts. It’s a great representation of skill set as well.
Not just based off total number of wins and win percentage.
Years ago, before your time, back when Shadowz Ill ran this place… There was a points system and a shop. You could wager points/money/RB dollars or whatever you want to call the forum currency on your battles. In the shop you could then ‘purchase’ things like a custom user title, avatar, coloured user text glows and whatnot.
We even used to bet on boxing using the forum currency. I remember specially Lennox Lewis vs Tyson going down and people betting on it.
Some users who were good with sig graphics and whatnot back then used to make blinging avatars and sigs for people for currency.
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Aware. Doesn’t change the fact that the math is off, playa.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Amen
Lol @ Messiah being #1 with a 41-0 record, total of 41 battles and only a 93% win percentage.
The math isn’t math’n lmao
it uses win percentage, how many battles, no one can be on there with just 1 - 0, the last log-in is applied. and it uses wins/losses. It is a really big formula that gets used a lot for competitive things, I was going to use the one they use for chess which is similar, but it also takes into account the record of the person you beat and that affects the percentage, beat someone shit you get less points than beating someone great. also, messiah has logged in with in 6 months its why he is there.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Amen
Aware. Doesn’t change the fact that the math is off, playa.
Also, the math isn't off.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
Years ago, before your time, back when Shadowz Ill ran this place… There was a points system and a shop. You could wager points/money/RB dollars or whatever you want to call the forum currency on your battles. In the shop you could then ‘purchase’ things like a custom user title, avatar, coloured user text glows and whatnot.
We even used to bet on boxing using the forum currency. I remember specially Lennox Lewis vs Tyson going down and people betting on it.
Some users who were good with sig graphics and whatnot back then used to make blinging avatars and sigs for people for currency.
Aware of the build. Was a common theme on most forums.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Amen
Aware. Doesn’t change the fact that the math is off, playa.
I’m just saying there is a reason the math is off if they added manually back then it wouldn’t update win percentage
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Openmic/Goldmic till this day still had the BEST battle hack.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
God of War
Also, the math isn't off.
lmao surely it has to be?
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Last activity should be last battle activity cuz some people just lurk
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
lmao surely it has to be?
Bayesian win rate=
(User’s Wins+User’s Losses+C)
(User’s Wins+C×M)
×100
its more than just percentage being caolculated. percentage makes it where the rankings are worse.
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lmao my record math is out
RB Legends says I went 22-0 then signed out undefeated
yet I’m 11-5 somehow yo
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
lmao surely it has to be?
So what it does is even though the user has a perfect win record ( 100 percent ) the Beysian Average lowers it due to the influence of the average win rate of all users, and the constant factor, so it pretty much moderates extreme values like a 100 percent win rate from a really small number of battles. by considering the overall average and constant factor.
that way we don't have the top ten, being the people with 1 - 0 records. if that makes sense.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Soule
Wouldn't 41-0 be 100%?
That's infinite
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My record on old account wasn’t accurate either if we added stuff outside of fl which originally never happened
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
lmao my record math is out
RB Legends says I went 22-0 then signed out undefeated
yet I’m 11-5 somehow yo
Was the 22-0 in leagues? They didn't start adding league wins/losses to the site record until a couple years ago. It also has to be done by until we can figure out how to have the battle system in leagues and tournaments as well.
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I get it
But you called it a win percentage earlier and that’s not correct, his win percentage at 41-0 is 100%
you’re talking about a win probability which is different
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
I get it
But you called it a win percentage earlier and that’s not correct, his win percentage at 41-0 is 100%
you’re talking about a win probability which is different
Yeah my bad bro, typing fast and coding that is my fault.
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It was a rule only battle hack stuff is added and people got scolded for not using the battle hack remember getting warned fkr not using it lmfao
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
I get it
But you called it a win percentage earlier and that’s not correct, his win percentage at 41-0 is 100%
you’re talking about a win probability which is different
also, if there is another way or different way you all would like it to be I can do it, just using win percentage we had a lot of people at the top with 1 - 0 and some dude was 141 - 0 I never even heard of.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Soule
Was the 22-0 in leagues? They didn't start adding league wins/losses to the site record until a couple years ago. It also has to be done by until we can figure out how to have the battle system in leagues and tournaments as well.
Yeah, old Sacred Scriptures
I actually went 22-0 in LLL and SS simultaneously at that time before I signed out of both undefeated the same week
old skool shit
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The chess method using elo and it’s used everywhere else like cod and halo and even used in algo on like dating sites
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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3viction
The chess method using elo and it’s used everywhere else like cod and halo and even used in algo on like dating sites
That is what I was going to use, but didn't know if people would like it lol.
that way if u topical battled someone named shit-prop-2 who never won or had a record ud get less points than beating baron.
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With a point system you can set up elo
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
God of War
also, if there is another way or different way you all would like it to be I can do it, just using win percentage we had a lot of people at the top with 1 - 0 and some dude was 141 - 0 I never even heard of.
the win probability is prob the best way of doing it
just set it so the bar isn’t low like you must have 15-20 battles to gain your probability rating/rank
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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Originally Posted by
Baron Mynd
I get it
But you called it a win percentage earlier and that’s not correct, his win percentage at 41-0 is 100%
you’re talking about a win probability which is different
Yup. Hahaha
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Only way for elo to work is to make a current stat and start over cuz have to know who they beat and lost to
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If you link me (say, just the league battles that show you at 22-0, not every battle) I'll add them to your record before work. Not that I don't believe you, just don't wanna listen to the "wow! Abuse!" Cries if I just do it for you lol.
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And u start over you can make it forum/category based and leagues can be broken down by season and have true contenders decided by an algorithm
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nah I don’t care enough to do that lol
there’s been multiple site crashes over this time
some threads aren’t even readable now from back then, they’re just blank
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Bet. Just figured I'd offer.
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I wish I remembered my legit record haha lots of wins losses for sure
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Just with my old account the league stuff was never added
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There's three battles open for votes in FL. Ryno vs Wuxia being a sleeper for sure.
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I might run a 1-2 GG tonight for everyone signed into the league. I'll check back in a couple hours to see what's good.
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I'm in if there's enough people
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id do it if enough people and due date was legit in 30 mins.
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
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3viction
id do it if enough people and due date was legit in 30 mins.
thats 2. not a lot of other people online though. a couple that probably just left the shit on too
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Re: LLL Chat (New Season)
woiuld be cool to do a golden glove in discord
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