Wax Poetic Chat

Thanks for the feedback @Jukon . Something you stated brings up an interesting debate I'd like to present to everyone here.

Jukon mentioned:

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I myself don't prefer constant rhyming in poetry, I like them to be littered throughout the piece here and there, but you made it work for you.

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I respect this view and completely understand it. I am wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is. I myself am neutral on the matter. For anyone who has read my writings, I do indeed love to rhyme as much as possible. Incorporating as many fluid multis into my writing is just what I love to do. However, this leads me to wonder: Where is the distinguishing line between topical writing and poetry? In my mind, I find it to be the same thing. Writing, and more specifically poetry, is free from regulation and conformity. I was told on another site that my writing (specifically the Scarlet Letter or Badge of Honor?) was a mixture of poetry and shortbar topical. So ever since then and upon reading Jukon's feedback, I have been wondering just where is the defining line if such a line even exists?

It's not really something that is frowned upon, and it definitely makes the read smoother and more fluid. And I even catch myself doing it, doesn't bother me, I just find that sometimes poems lose magnitude when people spend more time on rhymes. Poetry, for me, is an emotional connection, that shouldn't be hindered by trying to make sure my rhymes are there. Which is why I switched to poetry and don't dabble with open Mics anymore. People too often focus on the mechanics and lose sight of the bigger picture. I try to focus more on emotion and imagery and if rhyming threatens to derail that then it's something I'm drawn to or seem to really enjoy. But if it happens, it happens and definitely makes the read easier.

I guess I would say I'm more towards not having rhymes but it won't make the piece any less enjoyable if they're there. With yours, they work because you're not letting the poetic sense falter. As long as the right sacrifices are being made and you're not losing meaning within the rhymes. I've seen some pretty great pieces fall short due to the rhyme scheme being the focal point rather than the story or concept.

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Originally Posted by Jukon

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thank you

Sure em

Greetings

You're jus here to tease us

@Jukon @Emily

Is there a proper place on here to create a thread for the sole purpose of collecting all of my works in one place? I notice a few people have done so in the HOF forum I believe, but I'm not sure if that's only for HOFers or for anyone. If there isn't such a place, it's no worries; just asking.

Are you currently in a crew? I can add you to TNL for you to create one there if you'd like.

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

@Jukon @Emily

Is there a proper place on here to create a thread for the sole purpose of collecting all of my works in one place? I notice a few people have done so in the HOF forum I believe, but I'm not sure if that's only for HOFers or for anyone. If there isn't such a place, it's no worries; just asking.

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You can actually make a signature with links to all your works like Tim... did in the mag... all you do is typ[url=(insert link here] Title [ /url] no spaces actually looks nice if you do it right. =)

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Originally Posted by Jukon

Are you currently in a crew? I can add you to TNL for you to create one there if you'd like.

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I am not in a crew.

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Originally Posted by Cody Phoenix

You can actually make a signature with links to all your works like Tim... did in the mag... all you do is typ[url=(insert link here] Title [ /url] no spaces actually looks nice if you do it right. =)

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Word, thanks. I'll check his sig out. I tried adding links to my sig last night and it said there was too much.

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

I am not in a crew.



Word, thanks. I'll check his sig out. I tried adding links to my sig last night and it said there was too much.

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Example 1
Example 2 <--- you can click dem

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Originally Posted by Cody Phoenix

Example 1
Example 2 <--- you can click dem

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Here's what I get, though:

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The following errors occurred with your submission

Your signature cannot be longer than 200 characters including BB code markup.

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Here's what I get, though:

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Oh wow, Okay, Jukon's idea works best then. I apologize.

If I can get a password to TNL, I'd be all over it. ;]

will feed more poems throughout the day. already got about a good 6 in to start... getting coffee and a morning smoke and ill read a few more.

nice roll you're on @mic s

i got a few hours before i get busy............ need any graphics for the mag?

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Originally Posted by mic s

i got a few hours before i get busy............ need any graphics for the mag?

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that sounds great! ty.

ill be back online soon.

Point of discussion: feel free to flame and ridicule me all ye want. I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the combination of the OM and PC forums? I'm sure this has been brought it up before and now with the resurgence of PC, this may be a no go, but hear me out: In my opinion, OMs are predominantly topicals (or at least should be; braggadocio and diss verses are rudimentary, repugnant, and flat out suck) and PC is essentially the same thing. I see a very fine line when it comes to topical writing and poetry; in fact, I see topical writing as poetry, simply another branch. I can see it as a good idea to foster more activity between the two forums and since people are starting to post topicals in here as poetry.

However, I can also see this is a bad thing considering the PC elements may eventually get overshadowed by the crappy OM pieces stockpiling up. It is nice to distinguish our writings from the rest since this forum is where the real legitimately great writing gets posted.

I'm just curious on other thoughts to be honest.

a lot of good poems being dropped...

been reading some ---- havent dropped feed on em yet - but thats coming.. no worries

how everyone doing?

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Originally Posted by idealizt

Point of discussion: feel free to flame and ridicule me all ye want. I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the combination of the OM and PC forums? I'm sure this has been brought it up before and now with the resurgence of PC, this may be a no go, but hear me out: In my opinion, OMs are predominantly topicals (or at least should be; braggadocio and diss verses are rudimentary, repugnant, and flat out suck) and PC is essentially the same thing. I see a very fine line when it comes to topical writing and poetry; in fact, I see topical writing as poetry, simply another branch. I can see it as a good idea to foster more activity between the two forums and since people are starting to post topicals in here as poetry.

However, I can also see this is a bad thing considering the PC elements may eventually get overshadowed by the crappy OM pieces stockpiling up. It is nice to distinguish our writings from the rest since this forum is where the real legitimately great writing gets posted.

I'm just curious on other thoughts to be honest.

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To not come off as brash, but this is not even a discussion. And because I respect you as a writer I hope you don't take this personally

Emily and I worked too hard already to save PC from being eliminated entirely. And it's thriving the most it has in over a year due to the active members and people actually leaving feedback. And I'm not gonna take that away by stuffing this in with open mic. Most OM people don't post poetry, and I don't expect them to, nor do I want them to feel like they have to.

Em and I are very protective of this area, and it'll always be its own unless her and I decide differently.

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Originally Posted by Jukon

To not come off as brash, but this is not even a discussion. And because I respect you as a writer I hope you don't take this personally

Emily and I worked too hard already to save PC from being eliminated entirely. And it's thriving the most it has in over a year due to the active members and people actually leaving feedback. And I'm not gonna take that away by stuffing this in with open mic. Most OM people don't post poetry, and I don't expect them to, nor do I want them to feel like they have to.

Em and I are very protective of this area, and it'll always be its own unless her and I decide differently.

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I agree with this. it should be left separate---

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Originally Posted by Jukon

To not come off as brash, but this is not even a discussion. And because I respect you as a writer I hope you don't take this personally

Emily and I worked too hard already to save PC from being eliminated entirely. And it's thriving the most it has in over a year due to the active members and people actually leaving feedback. And I'm not gonna take that away by stuffing this in with open mic. Most OM people don't post poetry, and I don't expect them to, nor do I want them to feel like they have to.

Em and I are very protective of this area, and it'll always be its own unless her and I decide differently.

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I'm with you bud. I take nothing personal because you didn't make anything personal. This is a fair assessment and I would do nothing to take away yours and Emily's baby from y'all. I like this little corner of the forums if it wasn't obvious. I was only throwing the idea out there to hear other thoughts.

I'm all for keeping PC as it is despite my initial query. I like the folks 'round these parts. =]

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Originally Posted by idealizt

...I see a very fine line when it comes to topical writing and poetry; in fact, I see topical writing as poetry, simply another branch...

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Me too.
I like that it's separate though because there are poetic pieces in here (non-rhyming predominately) that would never be looked at if they were merged with om. Om has heavy flow, full of rhyme and pc pieces don't have to embody that. They just need that angelic air about them that makes them float like a feather down the page.
Certain om people wouldn't appreciate certain pc pieces like the pc community does.

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Originally Posted by mic s

a lot of good poems being dropped...

been reading some ---- havent dropped feed on em yet - but thats coming.. no worries

how everyone doing?

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Hey mic s, all good. hope you are too.

I know, so many drops, so little time.
I need the time to feed the ones I haven't gotten to yet.
It's great seeing activity in here though.
Thanks to all who make that happen.

Ill be finishing the interview up @Emily then get to feeding...

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Originally Posted by Storyteller

Ill be finishing the interview up @Emily then get to feeding...

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You're a star.
Thank you.

dead today

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Originally Posted by Jukon

dead today

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you or the site?

lol

If you're dead, can I have your play station?

Both

And sure

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Originally Posted by Jukon

Both

And sure

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hmm, you were too quick to say that.

I'll leave it to you in my will

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Originally Posted by Jukon

I'll leave it to you in my will

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go check out that verse I just wrote for you guys in TNL

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Originally Posted by Jukon

I'll leave it to you in my will

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you weren't supposed to say that bit.
lol
now i feel bad.

Psn @Jukon ?

Mine is WithOneSipOfTea add me bruh

Hmmmm....

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Originally Posted by Storyteller

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aren't you in TNL?

Yes I am...

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Originally Posted by Storyteller

Yes I am...

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hey you need to get on our collab going on, it's gonna be really nice and you'd like the topic.

today i will be feeding more pieces --- hopefully one of you will have something i can submit to hof :)